>And ....now....a new topic....gleaned from...the DUSK CD.....What is the
>nature of LUST..."to be given into or overcome..." Lust is a reoccurring
>them in The The's music and one in my own personal life as well...whatsup
>with that? A holdover from my primitive caveman ancestory...or am I being
>influenced by a sex saturated culture...any thoughts on that topic, my
>fellow Infections..DanO
Speaking of things to think on further when the 'chein' has become the
'loup'. .
lust, eh? i don't think lust comes from being influenced by a sex-soaked
society. it is already on everyone's mind, that need for possession
of
another provoked by simply being alone, the urgent late nite retching
and whining of wanting someone to hold. nature is knocking on the
door my friends, neighbors, countrymen. the tick-tick-tocking
of the
biological clock. reproduction is the key word.
just remember....
love is a matter of chemistry,
sex a matter of physics.
ah, lust, the glorious want, we all need a double-edged sword to sleep
with tonight.
"i would have prefer never to have met you in my
dreams
than wake and reach for arms that are not there."
paraphrased
Japanese tanka, trans. by Kenneth Rexroth
night kiddos,
ziggy nix
i may be wrong, but aren't we all...
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:51:54 MDT
Message-ID: <19980415005155.22774.qmail@hotmail.com>
Oh what the hell.Its better than working.
Most of the opinions voiced so far about censoring yourself have been
along the lines of its a terrible thing that stops you reaching your
full potential as a bipedal mammal. Go on Lori, live a little! Part of
me loves to play the devils advocat (which according to Colin Bateman is
a terrible drink and its no wonder the prince of darkness is often in
such a bad mood.)and to suggest a number of scenarios where a bit of
self-censorship is not necessarily a bad thing and where the desire to
be "completely honest" is just selfishness and or stupidity dressed up
as virtue (actually isnt there a the the B side called the nature of
virtue? Phew thank God ! a tenuous link to thethe. )
1 Your irrational prejudices . YES YOU !
I believe that all of us harbour poisonous irrational prejudices that we
keep hidden. You say no ? i dont believe you and you cant prove it, so
if you are a saint, this is my way of deliberately irritating you. But
putting your legal advice team aside for just a mo,you may have these
irrational prejudices that can spill out at times of stress but the
rational side of you, the bit of you that knows its bollocks that the
Swiss cant be bothered to invent a language (copyright Mr Don and Mr
George.) doesnt want you to voice these opinions .A., because you you
know its not right and b., because it will give a false impression of
the person you really are, possibly alienating you from people whose
company could make you feel happier. How many of us keep stuff back not
because we fear being judged but misjudged.
Your inner child in a sweetshop.(candy store if you prefer)
Its the difference between what you want short -term versus what you
want in the long run. Sometimes you have to do things that you dont want
to do in order to do other things. Short term you become the person you
dont really want to be in order to get the opportunity to be the person
you want to be.You want to be that hip cool drop dead-smart writer,
dressed in black, with your ever so small coffee beverage whilst
sneering at popular culture ? Great, but get the rudiments of grammar
and spelling first or popular culture will be too busy laughing at you
to feel the sting of your scorn. You never wanted to be the sort of geek
that studied sentence structure , you just wanted to be a cultural icon.
Spending a little time as the former will increase your chances of
becoming the latter.Some of you may notice by my relationship with
commas that i have no desire to be a cultural icon. This last bit can be
tricky because you have to be sure that you are not deluding yourself
and using it as a cop out.
You call it repression, i call it consideration.
Sometimes what you feel is very hurtfull to somebody you really care
about, but who has a completely different viewpoint to you. Truth isnt
absolute it varies with perspective. Maybe it is your right to say
"cunt" whenever you choose, but if it makes the woman who got varicose
veins carrying you, nursed you through numerous childhood diseases and
forfeited her chances of becoming an international standard kickboxer to
pay for your education, choke on her dinner, dont you think you might be
being just a teensy weensy bit selfish ? Before i came over here i had a
terrible time for over three years with my PhD supervisor ,who for
reasons known only to him and his 7-11 big gulp sized ego, tried
everything he could to block my work. He had done it to 6 people before
me and is doubtless still doing it to some poor fucker now. The point
is, by the end i would have liked to kill him. He might say i was
repressed but if so, he should be gratefull because that was the only
thing keeping him alive. If i had killed him , his kids would be orphans
and i would be in jail without my PhD. So instead, i told him to fuck
off ,submitted it independently, got it and will be back to fill his
bath with poisonous frogs when his children have grown up.
All this is not to say that i think that people should live their lives
according to other peoples values or in a timid and shy way or not go
for what they want for fear of upsetting people. I just think that in
some cases tempering your self honesty with a blend of intelligence and
consideration will make you happier in the long run.
Just a thought. Thanks for reading and i'm sorry it has very little to
do with The The. I'm sure MJ would forgive me.
Gotta go to back to work (i dont want to , but in the long run it will
keep me out of the gutter.)
Ken.
______________________________________________________
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From: Nat Light
To: "INFECTED (E-mail)"
Subject: RE: rant on lust
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:52:57 -0400
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>>nature is knocking on the
>>door my friends, neighbors, countrymen.
Nature is knocking on the door! Hell, it just beat the damn door down!
Ne Obliviscaris,
Vonn "Devo" Campbell ---> mailto:NatLight@worldnet.att.net
- -----Original Message-----
From: ziggy nix [SMTP:ziggy@wilmington.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 7:50 PM
To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: rant on lust
> >And ....now....a new topic....gleaned from...the DUSK CD.....What is the
> >nature of LUST..."to be given into or overcome..." Lust is a reoccurring
> >them in The The's music and one in my own personal life as well...whatsup
> >with that? A holdover from my primitive caveman ancestory...or am I being
> >influenced by a sex saturated culture...any thoughts on that topic, my
> >fellow Infections..DanO
>
> Speaking of things to think on further when the 'chein' has become the
> 'loup'. .
>
lust, eh? i don't think lust comes from being influenced by a sex-soaked
society. it is already on everyone's mind, that need for possession of
another provoked by simply being alone, the urgent late nite retching
and whining of wanting someone to hold. nature is knocking on the
door my friends, neighbors, countrymen. the tick-tick-tocking of the
biological clock. reproduction is the key word.
just remember....
love is a matter of chemistry,
sex a matter of physics.
ah, lust, the glorious want, we all need a double-edged sword to sleep
with tonight.
"i would have prefer never to have met you in my dreams
than wake and reach for arms that are not there."
paraphrased Japanese tanka, trans. by Kenneth Rexroth
night kiddos,
ziggy nix
i may be wrong, but aren't we all...
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- ----------
> From: Ken Maclean
> To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
> Subject: censorship or judgement. repression as a virtue ?
> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 5:51 PM
>
> Oh what the hell.Its better than working.
> Most of the opinions voiced so far about censoring yourself have been
> along the lines of its a terrible thing that stops you reaching your
> full potential as a bipedal mammal. Go on Lori, live a little! Part of
> me loves to play the devils advocat (which according to Colin Bateman is
> a terrible drink and its no wonder the prince of darkness is often in
> such a bad mood.)and to suggest a number of scenarios where a bit of
> self-censorship is not necessarily a bad thing and where the desire to
> be "completely honest" is just selfishness and or stupidity dressed up
> as virtue (actually isnt there a the the B side called the nature of
> virtue? Phew thank God ! a tenuous link to thethe. )
>
> 1 Your irrational prejudices . YES YOU !
>
> I believe that all of us harbour poisonous irrational prejudices that we
> keep hidden. You say no ? i dont believe you and you cant prove it, so
> if you are a saint, this is my way of deliberately irritating you. But
> putting your legal advice team aside for just a mo,you may have these
> irrational prejudices that can spill out at times of stress but the
> rational side of you, the bit of you that knows its bollocks that the
> Swiss cant be bothered to invent a language (copyright Mr Don and Mr
> George.) doesnt want you to voice these opinions .A., because you you
> know its not right and b., because it will give a false impression of
> the person you really are, possibly alienating you from people whose
> company could make you feel happier. How many of us keep stuff back not
> because we fear being judged but misjudged.
>
> Your inner child in a sweetshop.(candy store if you prefer)
>
> Its the difference between what you want short -term versus what you
> want in the long run. Sometimes you have to do things that you dont want
> to do in order to do other things. Short term you become the person you
> dont really want to be in order to get the opportunity to be the person
> you want to be.You want to be that hip cool drop dead-smart writer,
> dressed in black, with your ever so small coffee beverage whilst
> sneering at popular culture ? Great, but get the rudiments of grammar
> and spelling first or popular culture will be too busy laughing at you
> to feel the sting of your scorn. You never wanted to be the sort of geek
> that studied sentence structure , you just wanted to be a cultural icon.
> Spending a little time as the former will increase your chances of
> becoming the latter.Some of you may notice by my relationship with
> commas that i have no desire to be a cultural icon. This last bit can be
> tricky because you have to be sure that you are not deluding yourself
> and using it as a cop out.
>
> You call it repression, i call it consideration.
> Sometimes what you feel is very hurtfull to somebody you really care
> about, but who has a completely different viewpoint to you. Truth isnt
> absolute it varies with perspective. Maybe it is your right to say
> "cunt" whenever you choose, but if it makes the woman who got varicose
> veins carrying you, nursed you through numerous childhood diseases and
> forfeited her chances of becoming an international standard kickboxer to
> pay for your education, choke on her dinner, dont you think you might be
> being just a teensy weensy bit selfish ? Before i came over here i had a
> terrible time for over three years with my PhD supervisor ,who for
> reasons known only to him and his 7-11 big gulp sized ego, tried
> everything he could to block my work. He had done it to 6 people before
> me and is doubtless still doing it to some poor fucker now. The point
> is, by the end i would have liked to kill him. He might say i was
> repressed but if so, he should be gratefull because that was the only
> thing keeping him alive. If i had killed him , his kids would be orphans
> and i would be in jail without my PhD. So instead, i told him to fuck
> off ,submitted it independently, got it and will be back to fill his
> bath with poisonous frogs when his children have grown up.
>
> All this is not to say that i think that people should live their lives
> according to other peoples values or in a timid and shy way or not go
> for what they want for fear of upsetting people. I just think that in
> some cases tempering your self honesty with a blend of intelligence and
> consideration will make you happier in the long run.
>
> Just a thought. Thanks for reading and i'm sorry it has very little to
> do with The The. I'm sure MJ would forgive me.
>
> Gotta go to back to work (i dont want to , but in the long run it will
> keep me out of the gutter.)
> Ken.
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
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From: mind_bomb@clear.net.nz (Nigel Rean)
To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Mind Bomb
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:31:49 GMT
Message-ID: <353480a2.5682998@smtp.clear.net.nz>
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:57:32 -0700, you wrote:
>There I was thinking that Sony were kind enough to let theThe record albums
>exclusively for little me...oh well.
Horrible realization isn't it. :-(
>I knew someone else must be listening to Matt Johnson - I just never met
>any of them.
>Mind Bomb is such a part of my life that it feels like a part of my self. I
>have mixed feelings about discovering there are like minded people on the
>planet. I've always quite enjoyed the fact that almost everyone I've palyed
>Mind Bomb to hates it!
To me this whole mailing list is an abomination.
How DARE these people like theThe! It's mine! Mine y'hear!
I don't WANT anyone else to like it!?!
I don't wanna god-damn share it b'cause in this sad sick world it's
one of the few things I can fool myself into believing "it's not
dollar driven", but that it's driven by a heart and mind not
altogether dissimilar from my own.
I should be quite put-out if theThe suddenly became fashionable.
I'd have nothing left to distinguish myself from the rabble.
It'd be played on the airwaves and people would be saying
"Hey have you heard the latest theThe track? It's really cool!"
I'd grimace, chew my lip and mutter a reply
"Yeah, I've heard it.
"piss..off..pretender..bastard..
I've..been..LIVING..it..for..the..past..10..years..while..you..were..
fawning..over..milli-vanilli..fuckIhateyou., you, PRETENDER!
DIE, YOU BRAINLESS FUCKING VICTIM OF SOCIETY!"
This (that!?) is my worst nightmare.
It'd be like having your partner (wife/husband/significant other)
go from being "honest and true to you only" to an adulterer giving
the love you though was yours only, to every lowly sexual deviant in
town, and any other bum that happened to be handy at the time.
The world (society) doesn't deserve theThe, just me and perhaps,
grudgingly, one or two other people whome I don't honestly believe
appreciate them as much as I do anyway.
In short, I know how you feel,
and I hate you for feeling the same as me.
- --
Nigel (atrophy) Rean.
But I'm glad there are others out there, it means
>I'm not all alone on this Earth.
>
>-
>
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From: Conor Maguire
To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: Mind Bomb
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:59:58 +0100
Message-ID:
Hi all,
glad to see Mind Bomb getting some airplay on this list for a change.
Its always being my favourite. Here's one for debate :
Is a true fan someone who does not make/buy illegal recordings of an
artist's CD/album
because such an act ultimately has a negative effect on the artist ?
Keep listening !
regards,
Conor.
Conor Maguire
Software Engineer
Applications Engineering & Integration, Digital Software BV, Galway,
Ireland.
> * conor.maguire@digital.com
> * +353 (0)91 754607. DTN 822 - 4607
>
>
> ----------
> From: mind_bomb@clear.net.nz[SMTP:mind_bomb@clear.net.nz]
> Reply To: mind_bomb@clear.net.nz
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 11:31 AM
> To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
> Subject: Re: Mind Bomb
>
> On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:57:32 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >There I was thinking that Sony were kind enough to let theThe record
> albums
> >exclusively for little me...oh well.
>
> Horrible realization isn't it. :-(
>
> >I knew someone else must be listening to Matt Johnson - I just never
> met
> >any of them.
>
> >Mind Bomb is such a part of my life that it feels like a part of my
> self. I
> >have mixed feelings about discovering there are like minded people on
> the
> >planet. I've always quite enjoyed the fact that almost everyone I've
> palyed
> >Mind Bomb to hates it!
>
> To me this whole mailing list is an abomination.
>
> How DARE these people like theThe! It's mine! Mine y'hear!
> I don't WANT anyone else to like it!?!
>
> I don't wanna god-damn share it b'cause in this sad sick world it's
> one of the few things I can fool myself into believing "it's not
> dollar driven", but that it's driven by a heart and mind not
> altogether dissimilar from my own.
>
> I should be quite put-out if theThe suddenly became fashionable.
> I'd have nothing left to distinguish myself from the rabble.
>
> It'd be played on the airwaves and people would be saying
> "Hey have you heard the latest theThe track? It's really cool!"
>
> I'd grimace, chew my lip and mutter a reply
> "Yeah, I've heard it.
> "piss..off..pretender..bastard..
> I've..been..LIVING..it..for..the..past..10..years..while..you..were..
> fawning..over..milli-vanilli..fuckIhateyou., you, PRETENDER!
> DIE, YOU BRAINLESS FUCKING VICTIM OF SOCIETY!"
>
> This (that!?) is my worst nightmare.
>
>
> It'd be like having your partner (wife/husband/significant other)
> go from being "honest and true to you only" to an adulterer giving
> the love you though was yours only, to every lowly sexual deviant in
> town, and any other bum that happened to be handy at the time.
>
> The world (society) doesn't deserve theThe, just me and perhaps,
> grudgingly, one or two other people whome I don't honestly believe
> appreciate them as much as I do anyway.
>
> In short, I know how you feel,
> and I hate you for feeling the same as me.
> --
> Nigel (atrophy) Rean.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> But I'm glad there are others out there, it means
> >I'm not all alone on this Earth.
> >
> >-
> >
>
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From: JWH
To: Conor Maguire
cc: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: Mind Bomb
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:11:26 -0700 (MST)
Message-ID:
> Is a true fan someone who does not make/buy illegal recordings of an
> artist's CD/album
> because such an act ultimately has a negative effect on the artist ?
>
> Keep listening !
>
> regards,
> Conor.
Ummm, O.K., so you do not want POD? Just trying to clear things up.
By the way, I invented the Question Mark!
~jwh
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From: Conor Maguire
To: "'JWH'"
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Subject: RE: Mind Bomb
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:00:46 +0100
Message-ID:
Lets make a special case for unofficial/limited editions.
Unfortunately, I cannot answer the question as I am using a company
email address
and would not condone any illegal activity under this company's name.
regards,
Conor.
Conor Maguire
Software Engineer
Applications Engineering & Integration, Digital Software BV, Galway,
Ireland.
> * conor.maguire@digital.com
> * +353 (0)91 754607. DTN 822 - 4607
>
>
> ----------
> From: JWH[SMTP:jwh@U.Arizona.EDU]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 5:11 PM
> To: Conor Maguire
> Cc: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
> Subject: RE: Mind Bomb
>
> > Is a true fan someone who does not make/buy illegal recordings of an
> > artist's CD/album
> > because such an act ultimately has a negative effect on the artist ?
> >
> > Keep listening !
> >
> > regards,
> > Conor.
>
> Ummm, O.K., so you do not want POD? Just trying to clear things up.
> By the way, I invented the Question Mark!
> ~jwh
>
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From: Luka383062
To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: An open letter to Nigel:
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:28:04 EDT
Message-ID: <3ec9577.3534ee25@aol.com>
An open letter to Nigel:
I will kindly ask you to not put letters on this list which resemble my own
feelings as closely as yours did. Is it not enough that there are others
listening to my songs? Must you also be bothered by the mere fact that this
list exists? I have created a nice inner world for myself, please, please,
help me to keep it intact. The next thing I know, someone will discover
"Runaway Train". Stay away!!!
I thank you in advance.
Christopher
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From: DJ OKFM
To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: Mind Bomb
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:30:31 -0400
Message-Id: <199804151734.NAA01712@mail.binghamton.edu>
At 06:00 PM 4/15/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Lets make a special case for unofficial/limited editions.
i think that such a special case should be made. in the end, beyond the
rule of law, bootlegs of live recordings and/or otherwise unavailable
material only helps promote a band. in fact, i can state from personal
knowledge that some bands wish there were more bootlegs of themselves
available :)
DJ
- ---
~Damin J. Toell ~ djtoell@teknowhore.com~ bf19075@binghamton.edu~
~http://www.teknowhore.com ~ the official BiLe page~
~http://www.teknowhore.com/dj ~ my personal page~
~"inside this noise is a weak & godless soul" ~ R.G. Watts~
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From: Richard Ings
To:
Subject: Get a life!
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:57:08
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980415225708.2e3ff118@mail.clara.net>
Let me throw the cat among the pigeons here.
I figure that this group, by its nature, is introspective, but enough
already! I admit that I got into The The in my adolescence (I'm now 27) and
appreciated them then for the expression of existental angst ("the problem
of being human in the Eighties" as Johnson put it) which made for a
suitable soundtrack for the "growing pains" of teenage life. But to feel
like your life is a series of wrong turns by the age of 30, come on! If The
The represents anything it is not about self-pity but about tackling your
fears head on. I would not profess to have everything sorted but I have a
pretty clear idea of who I am and where I want to go. As a songwriter
myself, I feel I have something important to say, I want to make my mark on
the world, and I want people to listen. When bad stuff happens, I take it
on the chin and get on with life. Psychotherapists would call this denial,
and its true - I deny the fact that I am a sad fuck-up, I deny that being
human is about introspection and making excuses for your shortcomings. The
human spirit is about ambition and a desire not to be beaten by your own
fear. It is about looking on the world as your oyster, not as something
which exists behind the curtains in your bedroom.
Stop the wallowing! Johnson's statement about his shelved LP said people
should read "Project Censored" while they waited. Instead of navel-gazing,
perhaps people on this list should take Johnson's lead, read the book, and
start *really* discussing censorship. Censorship in the media is a live
issue, and who stands up for unbridled free speech anymore?
Just a thought! ;-)
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From: Cheryl
To: mind_bomb@clear.net.nz
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Subject: Re: Mind Bomb
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:13:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Nigel,
Don't mean to piss you off, but I once felt the same as you. In fact,
if the The did get popular, or at least hit pop culture, I don't know
who else I would worship, especially after years of Matt Johnson
himself understanding me so perfectly.
But, I say, here's to the selfless among you (us?) who acknowledge and
embrace that there are others (sounds like were aliens?). Lord knows,
we'll never be as big as Trekkies!
On a more insightful note, I know this guy who knows the guy who drums
for the The (I think...at least that's what they tell me). His name is
Earl Harvin, and he is supposedly drumming on the "new album." He
toured with Seal for awhile, and man, is he a fabulously talented
drummer. A bit jazzy I hear, as well. Any one else heard anything on
that realm?
With love and all devotion to the The,
Cheryl
P.S. Mind Bomb rules!!!
==
There's no more blood. And no more pain.
In our kingdom of rain...
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From: Nat Light
To: "'JWH'"
Cc: "INFECTED (E-mail)"
Subject: RE: Mind Bomb
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:46:01 -0400
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Damn! All these years I have wondered who invented that audacious Question Mark, now I finally am enlightened.
Ne Obliviscaris,
Vonn "Devo" Campbell ---> mailto:NatLight@worldnet.att.net
"I threw in my money and made my wish, but sleeping boys catch no fish." ...Matt Johnson
"Give her some good." ...Andy Griffith
"24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not!" ...Unknown
"Don't spaz out on me Weez, the situation will come online." ...Farmer Ted
"What we've got here is... failure to communicate." ... the Captain
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From: JWH [SMTP:jwh@U.Arizona.EDU]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 12:11 PM
To: Conor Maguire
Cc: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: Mind Bomb
> Is a true fan someone who does not make/buy illegal recordings of an
> artist's CD/album
> because such an act ultimately has a negative effect on the artist ?
>
> Keep listening !
>
> regards,
> Conor.
Ummm, O.K., so you do not want POD? Just trying to clear things up.
By the way, I invented the Question Mark!
~jwh
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Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:40:32 -0500 (CDT)
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From: JWH
To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: POD Disk
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:40:03 -0700 (MST)
Message-ID:
Update-
1) expect availibility around 1 May 1998
2) price should be around $5-12
3) don't send an email yet that says: "I want one", because everyone does
and there will be plenty to go around, don't worry about being 'shut-out'
4) there may be a new web site for this going up soon, more details to
come
Hang in there!
Pls. feel free to ask if you have any questions,
~jwh
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Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:04:21 -0500 (CDT)
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From: "Kyle Milligan"
To:
Cc: "Infected"
Subject: Re: Mind Bomb
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:42:25 -0700
Message-Id: <199804161054.GAA09507@toronto.planeteer.com>
Buddy, you need help. Whatever you're doing or taking, cut the dosage.
You've been "there" from the start and that should be enough. Who gives a
flying $#@* what some other lame brain catches on too.
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> From: Nigel Rean
> To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
> Subject: Re: Mind Bomb
> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 3:31 AM
>
> On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:57:32 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >There I was thinking that Sony were kind enough to let theThe record albums
> >exclusively for little me...oh well.
>
> Horrible realization isn't it. :-(
>
> >I knew someone else must be listening to Matt Johnson - I just never met
> >any of them.
>
> >Mind Bomb is such a part of my life that it feels like a part of my self. I
> >have mixed feelings about discovering there are like minded people on the
> >planet. I've always quite enjoyed the fact that almost everyone I've palyed
> >Mind Bomb to hates it!
>
> To me this whole mailing list is an abomination.
>
> How DARE these people like theThe! It's mine! Mine y'hear!
> I don't WANT anyone else to like it!?!
>
> I don't wanna god-damn share it b'cause in this sad sick world it's
> one of the few things I can fool myself into believing "it's not
> dollar driven", but that it's driven by a heart and mind not
> altogether dissimilar from my own.
>
> I should be quite put-out if theThe suddenly became fashionable.
> I'd have nothing left to distinguish myself from the rabble.
>
> It'd be played on the airwaves and people would be saying
> "Hey have you heard the latest theThe track? It's really cool!"
>
> I'd grimace, chew my lip and mutter a reply
> "Yeah, I've heard it.
> "piss..off..pretender..bastard..
> I've..been..LIVING..it..for..the..past..10..years..while..you..were..
> fawning..over..milli-vanilli..fuckIhateyou., you, PRETENDER!
> DIE, YOU BRAINLESS FUCKING VICTIM OF SOCIETY!"
>
> This (that!?) is my worst nightmare.
>
>
> It'd be like having your partner (wife/husband/significant other)
> go from being "honest and true to you only" to an adulterer giving
> the love you though was yours only, to every lowly sexual deviant in
> town, and any other bum that happened to be handy at the time.
>
> The world (society) doesn't deserve theThe, just me and perhaps,
> grudgingly, one or two other people whome I don't honestly believe
> appreciate them as much as I do anyway.
>
> In short, I know how you feel,
> and I hate you for feeling the same as me.
> --
> Nigel (atrophy) Rean.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> But I'm glad there are others out there, it means
> >I'm not all alone on this Earth.
> >
> >-
> >
>
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From: "Kyle Milligan"
To: "Conor Maguire"
Cc: "Infected"
Subject: Re: Mind Bomb - Non-profit sharing
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:56:54 -0700
Message-Id: <199804161055.GAA09537@toronto.planeteer.com>
Although my opinion may be bias, it has not been recently altered. I've always
felt this way.
My feeling is a "true fan" is this sense would buy whatever was commercially
available regardless of price. Beyond that, are bootlegs so bad?
In this case, a small group of people are working together to make available an
item which was next to impossible to locate to a like-minded group of soon to
be very gracious fans. Not for profit. For sharing. In my opinion, if a bootleg
became available, the only factors that would cause me to hesitate are price
and quality, because I don't like getting ripped off, and a great number of
bootlegs are shit quality.
But if you feel differently, no one is putting a gun to your head.
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> From: Conor Maguire
> To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
> Subject: RE: Mind Bomb
> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 3:59 AM
>
> Hi all,
> glad to see Mind Bomb getting some airplay on this list for a change.
> Its always being my favourite. Here's one for debate :
>
> Is a true fan someone who does not make/buy illegal recordings of an
> artist's CD/album
> because such an act ultimately has a negative effect on the artist ?
>
> Keep listening !
>
> regards,
> Conor.
>
> Conor Maguire
> Software Engineer
> Applications Engineering & Integration, Digital Software BV, Galway,
> Ireland.
> > * conor.maguire@digital.com
> > * +353 (0)91 754607. DTN 822 - 4607
> >
> >
> > ----------
> > From: mind_bomb@clear.net.nz[SMTP:mind_bomb@clear.net.nz]
> > Reply To: mind_bomb@clear.net.nz
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 11:31 AM
> > To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
> > Subject: Re: Mind Bomb
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:57:32 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> > >There I was thinking that Sony were kind enough to let theThe record
> > albums
> > >exclusively for little me...oh well.
> >
> > Horrible realization isn't it. :-(
> >
> > >I knew someone else must be listening to Matt Johnson - I just never
> > met
> > >any of them.
> >
> > >Mind Bomb is such a part of my life that it feels like a part of my
> > self. I
> > >have mixed feelings about discovering there are like minded people on
> > the
> > >planet. I've always quite enjoyed the fact that almost everyone I've
> > palyed
> > >Mind Bomb to hates it!
> >
> > To me this whole mailing list is an abomination.
> >
> > How DARE these people like theThe! It's mine! Mine y'hear!
> > I don't WANT anyone else to like it!?!
> >
> > I don't wanna god-damn share it b'cause in this sad sick world it's
> > one of the few things I can fool myself into believing "it's not
> > dollar driven", but that it's driven by a heart and mind not
> > altogether dissimilar from my own.
> >
> > I should be quite put-out if theThe suddenly became fashionable.
> > I'd have nothing left to distinguish myself from the rabble.
> >
> > It'd be played on the airwaves and people would be saying
> > "Hey have you heard the latest theThe track? It's really cool!"
> >
> > I'd grimace, chew my lip and mutter a reply
> > "Yeah, I've heard it.
> > "piss..off..pretender..bastard..
> > I've..been..LIVING..it..for..the..past..10..years..while..you..were..
> > fawning..over..milli-vanilli..fuckIhateyou., you, PRETENDER!
> > DIE, YOU BRAINLESS FUCKING VICTIM OF SOCIETY!"
> >
> > This (that!?) is my worst nightmare.
> >
> >
> > It'd be like having your partner (wife/husband/significant other)
> > go from being "honest and true to you only" to an adulterer giving
> > the love you though was yours only, to every lowly sexual deviant in
> > town, and any other bum that happened to be handy at the time.
> >
> > The world (society) doesn't deserve theThe, just me and perhaps,
> > grudgingly, one or two other people whome I don't honestly believe
> > appreciate them as much as I do anyway.
> >
> > In short, I know how you feel,
> > and I hate you for feeling the same as me.
> > --
> > Nigel (atrophy) Rean.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > But I'm glad there are others out there, it means
> > >I'm not all alone on this Earth.
> > >
> > >-
> > >
> >
>
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From: "Kyle Milligan"
To: "Luka383062"
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Subject: Re: An open letter to Nigel:
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:57:03 -0700
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Oh I love Runaway Train!!
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