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Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 01:21:39 -0600 (CST)
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From: "H. de Kan"
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Subject: first and favs
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 08:20:29 +0100
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Hi there,
My name is Hans, and I live in Holland. I also read what others are
writing to the mailing list for a while now and I thought it was time to
write something. I'm a fan of the The since "Soul Mining" and there
isn't a week going by when I don't play it. It remains my favorite album
and there isn't a song on it I don't like. There are of course favorites
and for Soul Mining that still has to be "Uncertain Smile". If I was a
piano player (wich I'm not) I would be able to play the never boaring
piano-solo by Jools Holland without sheetmusic. I got a tape from a
friend of mine which included the extra tracks and I was hooked
immediately. I've persuaded many of my friends since then to listen to
the The with a good deal of succes( By the way does anyone know of the
existence of Soulc Mining with the six extra tracks on CD format,
Because I've seen it listed this internet record store:
http://www.musicshop.co.uk
http://www.musicshop.co.uk/scripts/iMS_ASP/SR32.asp?ProdCode=26173&sTypeDesc=CD+Album&Code=SO4663372).
"Burning Blue Soul" is reflecting Matt's dark side (I read that lately
somewhere on the Net and immediately agreed with the writer) Needs more
listening to it but also has a favorite track which is the most
accessable track called "another boy drowning". "Infected" was in my
oppinion a somewhat more commercial album which had to grow on me but
has gained a solid place in my collection. Favorite track is "Angels of
deception" The way it's build up is typically Matt Johnson and one of
the recognizable tracks which remind me of "Soul Mining". Then there is
"Mind Bomb". In more than one way a turning point to me. No artwork by
his brother; forming a real solid band; harmonious songs; a different
approach of it all, and surprisingly finding Johnny Marr in the band (I
also am a big Smiths fan). High quality and a good album to listen to.
Favorite track:"Beyond Love". "Dusk" stands. It's an innovating album
and shows the The as a real band. Lots of emotions and the the The sound
still active and fresh (hard to write the The in a sentence). Favorite
track "Slow emotion replay". "Hanky Panky", for some reason I never felt
atracted to it which is why I never bought is until recent when I saw it
in the local recordstore for only $4. I must admit I like it a lot and
there is also a real the The sound in it. can't say I already have a
favorite track already. My collection is substantial and still growing.
Recently I got hold of "Soul Mining" including the 12" of "Perfect" for
only $12. I was trilled. Also obtained "Cold Spell Ahead" on cd just by
ordering it at my favorite local record store. One of the things I could
not get my hands on is "Solitude". (perhaps someone on the list can,
I'll be waiting) Well, all what's above is purely my oppinion and not
ment to offent anyone. I like reading what people think of the The and
will be looking forward to the new awaiting album. I just heard rumors
that it will be released in april, far out!
Greetings
Hans de Kan
floating down a tunnel
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From: Yara Herman
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Subject: take me beyound the internet
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:31:02 -0800
Message-Id:
With some free time and luck i stumbled with purpose to this e-mail
address. I will make my message brief and save stories for my next letters.
Please let me know more about this theThe sight. I am really excited about
this and admire theThe a great deal...not in a fan way but in a poetic way.
thank you, ana.
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Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:18:57 -0600 (CST)
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From: robert.w.matthews@USAPC.mail.abb.com
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Subject: Re: The The, In general - Controversial Subject specific
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:02:39 -0500
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I thought I'd throw this out for the masses. For anyone interested in a CD
copy of "Controversial Subject", 4AD has recently put out a seventeen track
compilation entitled "Natures Mortes - Still Lives" that contains
"Controversial Subject" as well as "Black and White". I was lucky enough to
get my hands on a copy, I do not know how readily available they are. Some of
the other artists included on the disc are The Birthday Party, Bauhaus and
Modern English to name a few. The The is one of the few to get two tracks on
the disc. The catalog number is CAD 117 CD and dated a 1997 release.
Rob
3. Does anyone out there actually have "Controversial Subject?"
Yours
Tom May
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Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:53:06 -0600 (CST)
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From: Yara Herman
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Subject: a little story
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:54:36 -0800
Message-Id:
this is for anyone who is interested. please reply if you wish.
as i was going for a walk not to long ago in my boring suberban town i
started to have many wonderful thoughts. i like to go on walks once in a
while to clear my head and my body of the stressful and depressing things
that happen during my day whether they affect me directly or indirectly.
The only really enjoyable thing on my walk is the awsome looking trees that
line the streets.
They look like they do not give a fuck about what us stupid humans do they
are much smarter than us. As i was walking, a great Thethe song popped into
my head which was apropriate for my walk. I think it is called Perfect Day.
It is on the Soul Mining album. So i started singing it softly under my
breath for i am too shy to sing it out loud.
Then another thought followed the song which is a recurring thought i
usually have. That is the passion of life. Where does it go? How many of
you know people who are passionate about life and what they do? A friend
and i were having a discussion about realizing that the passion that was
once there whether it was the first love or feeling free somehow slowly
dies and we are left to accept the norm of life.
That is why Thethe makes sense to me. Matt Johnson screams for Truth Love
Passion things that the world seems to lack. I love life because it is
filled with such crazy things but i also hate it because it is so
mysterious, ancient and evil.
this story can go on and on but i wish to stop it now. Thank you for
reading it and please feel free to comment. These thoughts are not written
to offend or to confuse, they are written to understand. ana
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Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:56:55 -0600 (CST)
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From: Patrick Mura
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Subject: hi there
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:55:31 +0100
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>Hi there,
>name's Patrick, mailing from Italy.
>First of all, just wanted to let you all know there's one more lustful and
lonely soul snooping on you. If the past archives of this list are any
indication, I think I'm on the right spot. Would like to read some of the
cunning and sometimes pointy remarks from the grognards - is Lea still
around ?
>
>Market corner: I'm looking for videos - anything from the usual three
videotapes to the eventual clips which weren't on them, especially the
special version of the video for Love is Stronger than Death that was made
I think for an AIDS campaign. If anybody is willing to make a VHS copy (for
$, of course), mail me directly.
>My address: t547554@tutor.uni-bocconi.it
>
>Still interested in the "best song/best album" thread ? My entries: Slow
emotion replay and Dusk. Sorry but I really can't understand why Matt had
to turn country with Hanky Panky, his only album I don't own (and don't
plan to).
>
>I guess it's no use asking if there's any news about the next album.....
>
>Bye to everybody.
>Patrick.
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Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:56:31 -0600 (CST)
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From: k333@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: hi there
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:54:45 -0600 (CST)
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On 03/13/98 08:55:31 you wrote:
>
>>Hi there,
>>name's Patrick, mailing from Italy.
>>
>>Still interested in the "best song/best album" thread ? My entries: Slow
>emotion replay and Dusk. Sorry but I really can't understand why Matt had
>to turn country with Hanky Panky, his only album I don't own (and don't
>plan to).
One could argue, if one is in to arguements, that Matt did not "turn country". If he did that he'd
be on the Country Music Awards show singing a duet with Garth Brooks, laughing at little leann Rimes and
lusting after Shanay Twain.
He did a tribute to an artist that he felt influenced him, music and society in general. He also indicated on one of his
liner slevees that he was planning on an album of Robert Johnson's tunes. That project I have yet to see any presence of
what so ever.
So the moral of the story is to never say you're planning on releasing such and such a project until you have the master and
you know that little gerbles in the factory are cranking out lasered plastic for all to hear.
Now, talk amongst yourselves!
>>
>>I guess it's no use asking if there's any news about the next album.....
>>
Yes there is news, nothing definite as to times and given that last release and tour strategies, I would say if he doesn't
scrap this project too, we may see something for summer. Apparently the music is all recorded and the lyrics are now a
matter of fill in the blank.
Now I have to go and count my NCAA pool winnings from the first round of Mini-Pro league basketball.
ciao
>>Bye to everybody.
>>Patrick.
>
>
>
Language is a virus. Laurie Anderson.
Goth isn't dead, it's just moved to Canada. Anonymous.
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo Picasso.
Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul. Mark Twain.
The storm starts when the drops start dropping. When the drops stop dropping then the storm starts stopping. Dr. Seuss.
A lot of people may say to just be yourself. But, if you really do that. It is the most threatening, subversive thing you can possibly do. K. Lambert.
email: k333@ix.netcom.com
aka: euthelene, kshark, wave queen and midi mashar
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Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:32:43 -0600 (CST)
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From: Yara Herman
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Subject: huge bugs
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:34:04 -0800
Message-Id:
This is a suggestion. To anyone who is interested in bugs there is a cool
movie out on video called MICROCOSMOS. This movie is visually appealing and
it is a change from human-centered movies.
It is like watching a nature show without the annoying narrator and it is
not as boring. The music is pretty cool and it is a cool movie to just
chill out and relax by yourself or with someone special, later, ana.
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Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:39:28 -0600 (CST)
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From: Patrick Mura
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Subject: strange phenomenon
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:38:38 +0100
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Hello everybody,
sifting the past archives of the list, I seemed to notice an odd thing: a
good number of people who like the The seem to be interested also in (or at
the very least informed about) New Order/Joy Division. Well, me too, but
that always puzzled me because I could see no common ground between the
two, so I blamed it on coincidence.
Am I wrong here ? Anybody out there thinks MJ and New Order share
similarities in style/lyrics (Hmmmm...) ?
BTW: sorry "CLTSUCK", didn't mean "to be an idiot", just meant to express
my personal - very personal - opinion on Hanky Panky: i.e., it's not MJ's
trademark music, and that trademark is the reason why I liked the The in
the first place, ergo I didn't like it anything like the other albums.
Bye everybody.
Patrick.
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From: "Michael Bird"
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Subject: Re: strange phenomenon
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:19:38 PST
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on the joy division/new order vs. the The bit:
All three of these entities explore quarters of the human experience
that most artists (even the angst-ridden variety) rarely go and both do
it in a fairly dramatic way. I think music, though stylistically
different, is very common in that it is composed in a very grandiose
way, giving it the stature and intensity that the lyrical content
requires. I believe they're also very good about delivering subject
matter on a very human, common-experience sort of level. That seems to
be true of most of the outfits I've been a fan of.
michael
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From: "Nate \"The Great\""
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Subject: Re: strange phenomenon
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:25:48 -0500
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>BTW: sorry "CLTSUCK", didn't mean "to be an idiot", just meant to express
>my personal - very personal - opinion on Hanky Panky: i.e., it's not MJ's
>trademark music, and that trademark is the reason why I liked the The in
>the first place, ergo I didn't like it anything like the other albums.
Hey Everyone,
I think it is safe to say that: Just because someone has a different
opinion of something than we, does not mean they are an "idiot."
Obviously, those of us who really enjoy the music of MJ are not in the
majority, and I would not want anyone to call me an idiot because I like
different music than they do. We are all mature, open minded people, and
need not resort to insults when out opinion is in question. I'm sure all
of my likes and dislikes are vastly different than all of yours, but we
share a common intrest that should be stronger than our disimilarities.
All I'm saying is: Please respect other's ideas, and know that what they
are expressing is only thier piont of view not an absolute truth set in
stone.
Not trying to piss anyone off. Just rambling on pointlessly.
Thanks
Nate
"If I die before I learn to speak,
Can money pay for all the days I lived awake,
but half asleep."
Chris O'Connor
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From: k333@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: strange phenomenon
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:07:26 -0600 (CST)
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On 03/19/98 12:38:38 you wrote:
>
>Hello everybody,
>
>sifting the past archives of the list, I seemed to notice an odd thing: a
>good number of people who like the The seem to be interested also in (or at
>the very least informed about) New Order/Joy Division. Well, me too, but
>that always puzzled me because I could see no common ground between the
>two, so I blamed it on coincidence.
They were both major contributors to the music scene in the early 80s. And for those of us
who were alive and in the music scene both groups became staples for listening. Kinda like Mariah cary and the Dion woman
now...GOTCHA
>Am I wrong here ? Anybody out there thinks MJ and New Order share
>similarities in style/lyrics (Hmmmm...) ?
>
Well yes they do. Some folks think that New Order is an upbeat Joy Division. Lyrically they can be just as dark, musically
they started off pretty much the same as joy division with less bass and more synth. Listen to "Movement"!
As for styles, MJ tosses in a more varied influence package. You'll here strains of middle eastern, r & b, jazz riffs.
WHile not the pure elements, the influences are there.
Lyrically theThe presents more of an ode approach to songs. Very few brain numbing choruses (let's not go over the beat(en)
gen thing again okay?), and he tells more of a story.
>BTW: sorry "CLTSUCK", didn't mean "to be an idiot", just meant to express
>my personal - very personal - opinion on Hanky Panky: i.e., it's not MJ's
>trademark music, and that trademark is the reason why I liked the The in
>the first place, ergo I didn't like it anything like the other albums.
>
CLTSUCK, what a name. enough said. on that one.
as for Hanky Panky not being signature, i would like to argue that as well. As matt has stated Hank williams was a definite
influnce on his music. So if hank was a major influence, ergo the music matt created (his signature) would be williams-
eske.
>Bye everybody.
>Patrick.
>
>
>
And Patrick never apologise for an opinion. make your case, sit back and let "them" howl!
and that's the truth, ;p
Language is a virus. Laurie Anderson.
Goth isn't dead, it's just moved to Canada. Anonymous.
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo Picasso.
Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul. Mark Twain.
The storm starts when the drops start dropping. When the drops stop dropping then the storm starts stopping. Dr. Seuss.
A lot of people may say to just be yourself. But, if you really do that. It is the most threatening, subversive thing you can possibly do. K. Lambert.
email: k333@ix.netcom.com
aka: euthelene, kshark, wave queen and midi mashar
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Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:54:58 -0600 (CST)
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From: Yara Herman
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Subject: love?
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:54:56 -0800
Message-Id:
All right all you wacky thethe fans out there. I have a dillema/problem. It
is about love. How does one "get over" a first love. Not a crush, an
obssesive desire, but a first love. Now observing my acquaintances and
friends that i have and had in the past, none of them seem to know
themselves. They just do what comes natural, either get a new boyfriend or
girlfriend and hate their ex's forever. Or they become jaded and do not
trust the opposite sex for a while and go on with their lives not trusting
each other.
As for me...well i tried to be friends with my first love but fuck that was
hard. Now i am ok not bieng around him but it is hard, i still think about
him. Getting together is not an option. I guess i am not looking for the
right answer to this question because deep down i know there isn't one.
Every relationship is different. Listening to thethe helped me understand
those desires we all have towards each other but the answers were not
there. Love is a trip, sometimes i do not think i can love anyone because
it already happened once so intensely.
I will leave a poem for you guys by Walt Whitman: song of myself
i celebrate myself, and what i assume you shall assume,
for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.
i loafe and invite my soul, i lean and loafe at my ease....observing a
spear of summer grass.
houses and rooms are full of perfumes...the shelves are crowded with perfumes,
i breathe the fragrance myself, and know it and like it, the distillation
would intoxicate me also, but i shall not let it.
the atmosphere is not a perfume...it has no taste of the distillation....it
is odorless,
it is for my mouth forever....i am in love with it, i will go to the bank
by the wood and become undisguised and naked, i am mad for it to be in
contact with me....
stop this day and night with me and you shall posses the origen of all
poems, you shall posses the good of the earth and sun...
there are millions of suns left, you shall no longer take things at second
or third hand....
nor look through the eyes of the dead....nor feed on the spectres in books,
you shall not look through my eyes either, nor take things from me, you
shall listen to all sides and filter them from yourself.
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From: "Bambang"
To: , "Yara Herman"
Subject: Re: love?
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:44:31 +1000
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I thank Yara for the poem. The precept that I live and love by is "when
deciding what to do, pursue a positive, don't avoid a negative."
To quote MJ:
...
She can't leave you now
You've given up all your friends
You're relying on her
For your independence
She can't leave you here
Alone and defenseless
You're relying on her
For your independence
...
As I am back in OZ, having had my fill of the US of A, I have little
excitement in my life again. I'm wondering whether I should sit on my
hands in anticipation of the new album.
Here though is the question that popped up two days ago: is the harmonica
on The Beaten Generation ala Marr or ala MJ? I have not the cover to check
this. To me it sounds like MJ. And who precisely is the generation that
MJ calls Beaten? Lisa, have you composed an essay on that. If you have
then I request a reading. Having spent little time thinking on the lyrics
I am thinking either the people presently in power, while at the same time
I suspect it could be those in their teens in the 80s - eg myself.
"democracy is coming to the USA" - ha
bambang
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From: k333@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: love?
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:49:12 -0600 (CST)
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On 03/19/98 15:54:56 you wrote:
>
>All right all you wacky thethe fans out there. I have a dillema/problem. It
>is about love. How does one "get over" a first love. Not a crush, an
>obssesive desire, but a first love. Now observing my acquaintances and
>friends that i have and had in the past, none of them seem to know
>themselves. They just do what comes natural, either get a new boyfriend or
>girlfriend and hate their ex's forever. Or they become jaded and do not
>trust the opposite sex for a while and go on with their lives not trusting
>each other.
>
>As for me...well i tried to be friends with my first love but fuck that was
>hard. Now i am ok not bieng around him but it is hard, i still think about
>him. Getting together is not an option. I guess i am not looking for the
>right answer to this question because deep down i know there isn't one.
>Every relationship is different. Listening to thethe helped me understand
>those desires we all have towards each other but the answers were not
>there. Love is a trip, sometimes i do not think i can love anyone because
>it already happened once so intensely.
>
>I will leave a poem for you guys by Walt Whitman: song of myself
>
>i celebrate myself, and what i assume you shall assume,
>for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.
>i loafe and invite my soul, i lean and loafe at my ease....observing a
>spear of summer grass.
>houses and rooms are full of perfumes...the shelves are crowded with perfumes,
>i breathe the fragrance myself, and know it and like it, the distillation
>would intoxicate me also, but i shall not let it.
>the atmosphere is not a perfume...it has no taste of the distillation....it
>is odorless,
>it is for my mouth forever....i am in love with it, i will go to the bank
>by the wood and become undisguised and naked, i am mad for it to be in
>contact with me....
>
>stop this day and night with me and you shall posses the origen of all
>poems, you shall posses the good of the earth and sun...
>there are millions of suns left, you shall no longer take things at second
>or third hand....
>nor look through the eyes of the dead....nor feed on the spectres in books,
>you shall not look through my eyes either, nor take things from me, you
>shall listen to all sides and filter them from yourself.
>
>
>
>
>
I think you might want to re-examine your question. WHy should anyone "get over" their
first love??? All things happen for a reason, sometimes you'll find out years later
what positive came from a very negative situation. Yes it is very ying and yang.
Take some time, figure out what you can take from the experience and learn or treasure
or throw in the trash.
While some relationships and situations have been extremely difficult and on occassionaly
life threatening, I have always taken away something from which I could add to myself.
Sound a little mushy??? it is, and I'm a pretty hard person in general.
I wouldn't trade the learnin for the world, I am what I am because of those experiences.
time gives you perspective. it has nothing to do with forgiveness or forgetting, it has
everything to do with perspective. and age doesn't matter either, no matter what your age,
if your open to learning, you'll be okay.
enough pontificating, i'm tired.
Language is a virus. Laurie Anderson.
Goth isn't dead, it's just moved to Canada. Anonymous.
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo Picasso.
Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul. Mark Twain.
The storm starts when the drops start dropping. When the drops stop dropping then the storm starts stopping. Dr. Seuss.
A lot of people may say to just be yourself. But, if you really do that. It is the most threatening, subversive thing you can possibly do. K. Lambert.
email: k333@ix.netcom.com
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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:12:21 -0800
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Yara,
The only way to get over your first "love" is in the self realization (i.e.
no one can snap you out of it), that you truly wouldn't be better off if
you got back together. If you can't see that, then you can't get over it
(or maybe you shouldn't) This applies to all scenarios:
a) You dumped them, there must've been a reason for this, if regret is your
problem, there's something you can do about it. Shit or get off the pot.
Neither of you need this, it didn't work then. The question you have to ask
yourself is, what's different about either of you that will make it better?
(Merchandise doesn't count.)
b) They dumped you. Well, an ego blow to be sure, but even if you think you
can get past that, would the two of you EVER be on equal ground if you got
back together, there would be undeniable temptation to even the score,
level the battlefield, by dumping them too. (Pyrrhic victory, that). You
don't need that. Let's just pretend for a minute you have no destructive
tendencies... so maybe you'll always wonder when the hammer will fall
again. Great feeling that would be, don't you think?
c) They left town, you left town. Haven't the first hand on this one, I
must admit, but what can you do. If the love between you is strong enough,
perhaps you can meet in the middle. You'll need plane tickets.
d) Death. Liquor may be the only cure for this. Or another mate. Life goes
on, with or without you or your loved one. You may as well start anew.
Hope that's helpful, Yara, I sure do hate to see someone aching behind the
rib cage.
Yours truly,
Kyle
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> From: Yara Herman
> To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
> Subject: love?
> Date: Thursday, March 19, 1998 3:54 PM
>
> All right all you wacky thethe fans out there. I have a dillema/problem.
It
> is about love. How does one "get over" a first love. Not a crush, an
> obssesive desire, but a first love. Now observing my acquaintances and
> friends that i have and had in the past, none of them seem to know
> themselves. They just do what comes natural, either get a new boyfriend
or
> girlfriend and hate their ex's forever. Or they become jaded and do not
> trust the opposite sex for a while and go on with their lives not
trusting
> each other.
>
> As for me...well i tried to be friends with my first love but fuck that
was
> hard. Now i am ok not bieng around him but it is hard, i still think
about
> him. Getting together is not an option. I guess i am not looking for the
> right answer to this question because deep down i know there isn't one.
> Every relationship is different. Listening to thethe helped me understand
> those desires we all have towards each other but the answers were not
> there. Love is a trip, sometimes i do not think i can love anyone because
> it already happened once so intensely.
>
> I will leave a poem for you guys by Walt Whitman: song of myself
>
> i celebrate myself, and what i assume you shall assume,
> for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.
> i loafe and invite my soul, i lean and loafe at my ease....observing a
> spear of summer grass.
> houses and rooms are full of perfumes...the shelves are crowded with
perfumes,
> i breathe the fragrance myself, and know it and like it, the distillation
> would intoxicate me also, but i shall not let it.
> the atmosphere is not a perfume...it has no taste of the
distillation....it
> is odorless,
> it is for my mouth forever....i am in love with it, i will go to the bank
> by the wood and become undisguised and naked, i am mad for it to be in
> contact with me....
>
> stop this day and night with me and you shall posses the origen of all
> poems, you shall posses the good of the earth and sun...
> there are millions of suns left, you shall no longer take things at
second
> or third hand....
> nor look through the eyes of the dead....nor feed on the spectres in
books,
> you shall not look through my eyes either, nor take things from me, you
> shall listen to all sides and filter them from yourself.
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:17:19 -0800
Message-Id:
This deffenitly is a topic people are familiar with, i woke you guys
up.Thank you so much. I feel so much better. Although it is painful to talk
about love and desire and lust, i appreciate what you guys wrote. And i
have thought about it a lot and i feel i am doing the right things and it
is a part of life. It is good to feel that i am not alone in this and from
the feedback i recieved i know i am not.
Is it just me or does the title "pornography of despair" sound so perfect
for his next album? I am deffenitly looking forward to hearing what
reflections Matt has made about the world and beyond...later ana.
When your lustful and your lonely and the heat is rising slowly...dogs of lust.
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Subject: Joy Division and co.
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:13:29 -0800
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I too am a Joy Division fan. The true simalarity between The The and
Joy Division is their uniqueness, and their ability to blend lyric into
sound in places to produce something special. Just listening to it is
like getting high. I would group them with Bauhaus, Godley and Creme and
Balaam and the Angel. But Yello are the masters of the sonic drug.
Cheers.
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:56:25 -0800
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Patrick Mura wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> sifting the past archives of the list, I seemed to notice an odd thing: a
> good number of people who like the The seem to be interested also in (or at
> the very least informed about) New Order/Joy Division. Well, me too, but
> that always puzzled me because I could see no common ground between the
> two, so I blamed it on coincidence.
> Am I wrong here ? Anybody out there thinks MJ and New Order share
> similarities in style/lyrics (Hmmmm...) ?
>
I loved Joy Division but was a bit less enamoured of New order. i
dont know why, exactly, they are really nice folk and I like some of
their stuff. I also really liked Gang of Four a lot. i dont think its
so much a musical similarity as the large poetic element. Probably, I
like Jim Caroll for the same reason. ("When the City Drops into the
Night", "Center of the City in the Night (waiting for you)", and the
"Mercy Beat" all have a bit in common, dont you think? Im not sure
where Gang of Four comes in, but I know they have "been there "Urban
shadow Fear/Excitement/Edge kind of thang!
Matter of fact- Lou Reed , too and there is a certain Joy Division
quality there. I suspect I like music influenced by heroin and "big
cities of solitude", among other things. Maybe THATS the commonality.
(Im just saying that so the innocents amoung us will rush to defend
Matt's sobriety- i have no definite idea of whats ever swam in his
blood stream- but the work has a similar "NY HEROIN FEEL" to it and
maybe that's what I like?
Let's see "Minimalist Strung Out Urban Edge Rant"......Thats what Ill
Call it, today.
Lea
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> Well yes they do. Some folks think that New Order is an upbeat Joy Division.
> Lyrically they can be just as dark, musically
> they started off pretty much the same as joy division with less bass and more synth.
> Listen to "Movement"!
Same Band, less Ian Curtis, but New order said (to me as a matter of
fact), that they didnt want to sound like or be compared to Joy
Division. Ian's death (suicide) was quite traumatic and not expected at
all by the band members. Fans were not much suprised but maybe the band
was too close to see it coming. Seemed to be written right INTO th e
lyrics including a funeral dirge, etc, but they thought he was foolin.
Personally, I think the two main JD albums, (Unknown Pleasures and
Closer) are an amazing biography. He says he is going to do it and why
and then he does. Not recommended listening for anyone who is really
depressed, probably.
Lea
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Subject: Re: love?
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:04:56 -0800
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Yara Herman wrote:
>
> All right all you wacky thethe fans out there. I have a dillema/problem. It
> is about love. How does one "get over" a first love.
Im very late in replying, but I just had a dream, today about, not a
first love, but a deep lost love, and the place where we both worked.
This was alomost 15 years ago, and in the dream I was crying, wailing,
greif stricken, just sobbing greatly over not working there anymore and
the fact that he was gone. I woke up and my eyes were dry and I hadnt
really been crying at all, only dreaming that I was. And it occured to
me that I dont feel nearly as bad about it now as I did then or in the
dream. But its still THERE, somewhere, and that heartbreak still
exists in my dreams.
So you ask a very serious question, and I am ging to answer it. I may
not be right and this is probnably too long to be of interest to anyone
else, so pardon me. In fact, Im probably full of shit, but if you want,
you can read it and see if it might work, ok? If not, you can just
delete it, but even terrible writing is probably a little better than
being heartbroken, and its too convoluted to understand and think about
lost boyfriends at once!
, Hmmm...now back to the terrible dream, I could call him on the phone
now, and we do occaisonally talk, we are friends, but separated by a bit
of geographical distance and also quite a bit of lifestyle distance.
But if I needed him, as in life and death I think he would respond and I
certainly would be there for him. So I guess, in a way, I'm saying
that you DONT get over it, but it gets certainly a lot more bearable.
This wasnt the first loss. The first one was real awful too, and then
we were friends for a long time and it got a lot better, and I went on
to get smashed and destroyed again, in newer relationships. Once is
rarely enough to deter the true romantic and if you are quoting Whitman
I suspect you will be back at it again!
In the mean time? Do you know anyone who is really hurting for some
reason? Find them. There is somebody around who needs your help.
probably somebody right under your nose and you dont really know yet how
badly they need something you can give them, quite easilly. It may be
something real simple like writing them a consoling email, or making a
phonecall. Sometimes its the simple things....
Like me, you may still dream about what has been lost. But in your
wakefulness, you will move on. You need to be jarred out of it, and if
the feeling of loss persists for too long, and the need to fix
something which you can not, you will start breaking things, or get
sick, or create some disaster in your life.
You feel a need to "fix something" that can't be fixed for yourself,
so go exercize it on someone or something that you CAN fix. That way
you will not start subconciously creating disasters or illness. Not only
do you need to do this to distract yourself, you need to do it as a
preventative measure for worse things that so often follow these losses.
Animals are good, especially dogs, as they sort of absorb all that
grief, and give out lots of unconditional love which you really need
right now, but dont take on a pet you can't care for long term, unless
you can. Its got to be something that is relatively easy. Some people
overdo this and they are the ones that are always falling in love with
some broken wing and thats no good either. They intuitively know the
right direction to go, but they do it too fanatically, and always bite
off more than they can chew. You know the type. Keep it very simple and
clear cut, maybe even anonymous. Come out of your own grief long enough
to look around, for somebody or something that needs your help, even if
only for ten minutes. Dont worry, it isnt like the grief wont still be
there for you when you get done. :>).
Grief causes your brain to become chemically imbalanced a bit and
although it FEELS miserable, its more than a little addicting. And if
you think about it and you think of doing something OTHER than grieving,
you will feel ...almost afraid to do that... or at the very least, not
interested. WHY IS THAT? Because you might LOOSE your grief? Are you
not ready for that? Why would you NOT want to loose this grief? How
does it benefit you? Think about it. Even if you are hanging on to it
with the thoughts that you can somehow get him back, no one is attracted
to somebody who is all torn up over them. Sometimes when you get over
it and move on, they come running BACK, but you really DO have to mean
it. (and usually they are not WORTH taking back, but thats another
story :>)There must be something ABOUT it that you are benefitting from,
or you would simply let go. I think it is that your brain likes the
chemicals its getting and its sort of keeping you stuck so it can get
it's "despair fix":>)
So you can trick your brain (and brains are just total drug
addicts,liking whatever chemical high, or amino acid they happen to be
feeding on at the moment), by letting it feed on somebody elses dispair,
and then it gets tricked and it solves THEIR problem, then suddenly the
grief slips away, and oops...NOW your brain is getting high on these
feelings of just having done a good deed, and its thinking of still more
good deeds, and oh well.....
Well, I dont know if it will work for you, but I feel EVER so much
better , having written this!
I promise you that if you force yourself to do what I say, you will
feel a bit better. Maybe not CURED, but better. (and there WILL be more
loves, ...not to worry)
Lea
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Subject: Just FYI: 78s auction launches NOT theThe related, but for music lovers
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:25:13 -0600 (CST)
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This store owner is a friend of mine. He has acquired tons of vinyl and has lots on auction via
their web site.
Nothing specific to theThe, unfortunately. He let me look through the many, many boxes of vinyl.
Probably a million releases in all. I'm not kidding. He's bought some collections of unopened
releases as well as some music left stored in music stores where the owner died or went broke
or something like that. It has been rather fun watching all the hoopla.
You can get the bidder ID via the site. Other than that I take no responsibility other
than telling you all about this.
Forwarded message:
Listen Up! Let It Be Records' is announcing the debut auction of its
phenomenal collection of more than 250,000 78s from the infamous "Hart's
Collection" at http://www.letitbe.com. The auction starts March 29th and
ends at 6 p.m. CST Saturday, April 25th. The auction is a live, real-time
online auction which automatically posts the highest bid. You must register
for a bidder ID number to participate in the auction. The auction includes
recordings of Winnie the Pooh, Bob Wills, Duke Ellington, Mother Goose and
more. This is the first of many auctions of our 78s but it's one the you
shouldn't miss.
Let It Be Records
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Language is a virus. Laurie Anderson & WIlliam Burroughs.
Goth isn't dead, it's just moved to Canada. Anonymous.
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo Picasso.
Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul. Mark Twain.
The storm starts when the drops start dropping. When the drops stop dropping then the storm starts stopping. Dr. Seuss.
A lot of people may say to just be yourself. But, if you really do that. It is the most threatening, subversive thing you can possibly do. K. Lambert.
email: k333@ix.netcom.com
aka: euthelene, kshark, wave queen and midi mashar
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In a message dated 98-03-22 17:03:57 EST, lea@sirius.com writes:
<< I loved Joy Division but was a bit less enamoured of New order. i
dont know why, exactly, they are really nice folk >>
Nice??? You may not have seen some of their NY shows. They openly cursed at
the audience and often played the whole show facing the back wall. I would say
one of the nastiest bands in the business. That said and done, I do like a lot
of the songs!!
Steve
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:45:33 -0600 (CST)
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On 03/30/98 17:07:50 you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 98-03-22 17:03:57 EST, lea@sirius.com writes:
>
><< I loved Joy Division but was a bit less enamoured of New order. i
> dont know why, exactly, they are really nice folk >>
>
>Nice??? You may not have seen some of their NY shows. They openly cursed at
>the audience and often played the whole show facing the back wall. I would say
>one of the nastiest bands in the business. That said and done, I do like a lot
>of the songs!!
>
>Steve
>
>
>
They are nice when talking one on one, and I think they really do not performing. Unfortunately for a lot of musicians that
is really part of the package deal.
New Order has never been know for the "stage show", a lot bands are no showpeople. So I just listen to the music and
avoid paying for something that would rather be sitting in a studio making sythetic sounds.
I've never witnessed the cursing, maybe somebody took all the green M&Ms out of the bowl instead of the brown ones. Uh,
that was van Halen, oh well.
ciao
Language is a virus. Laurie Anderson & WIlliam Burroughs.
Goth isn't dead, it's just moved to Canada. Anonymous.
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo Picasso.
Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul. Mark Twain.
The storm starts when the drops start dropping. When the drops stop dropping then the storm starts stopping. Dr. Seuss.
A lot of people may say to just be yourself. But, if you really do that. It is the most threatening, subversive thing you can possibly do. K. Lambert.
email: k333@ix.netcom.com
aka: euthelene, kshark, wave queen and midi mashar
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:45:08 -0600 (CST)
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On 03/31/98 09:45:33 you wrote:
please excuse the typos, my left hand is in a cast! nasty hacker tendenitis for those of you who enjoy other people's pain.
>
>They are nice when talking one on one, and I think they really do not performing. Unfortunately for a lot of musicians
that
>is really part of the package deal.
>
>New Order has never been know for the "stage show", a lot bands are no showpeople. So I just listen to the music and
>avoid paying for something that would rather be sitting in a studio making sythetic sounds.
>
>I've never witnessed the cursing, maybe somebody took all the green M&Ms out of the bowl instead of the brown ones. Uh,
>that was van Halen, oh well.
>
>ciao
>
>Language is a virus. Laurie Anderson & WIlliam Burroughs.
>Goth isn't dead, it's just moved to Canada. Anonymous.
>Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo Picasso.
>Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul. Mark Twain.
>The storm starts when the drops start dropping. When the drops stop dropping then the storm starts stopping. Dr. Seuss.
>A lot of people may say to just be yourself. But, if you really do that. It is the most threatening, subversive thing you
can possibly do. K. Lambert.
>
>email: k333@ix.netcom.com
>aka: euthelene, kshark, wave queen and midi mashar
>
>
>
Language is a virus. Laurie Anderson & WIlliam Burroughs.
Goth isn't dead, it's just moved to Canada. Anonymous.
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo Picasso.
Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul. Mark Twain.
The storm starts when the drops start dropping. When the drops stop dropping then the storm starts stopping. Dr. Seuss.
A lot of people may say to just be yourself. But, if you really do that. It is the most threatening, subversive thing you can possibly do. K. Lambert.
email: k333@ix.netcom.com
aka: euthelene, kshark, wave queen and midi mashar
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Hi all
Snooky here and back on line.
Just a quick note for now. I note that a few comments being made about
New Order. I'm to see them LIVE at the Phionex Festival over here in the
UK.
Just a quick question, especially for all the die hard fans ie. Lea. I'm
the only person whose heard the track Lip Trippin' a very rare THE THE
track?
Let me know if you have.
Later...
Snooky
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:43:22 -0700
Message-ID:
I agree with both comments below. I saw New Order ages ago (1984?
Power, Corruption & Lies tour) when I was a huge fan. They put on a
terrible 'show' ... musically it was OK, but they showed no interest in
the audience, didn't even pretend to be playing their instruments all of
the time (i.e. walking away while the synth did its stuff), and also
swore at the audience ("this one's the b-side from one of our first
singles ... if you haven't heard it, well fuck you"). It pissed me off
for a while, and then I realized that I shouldn't confuse live shows
with studio material. Some bands are great in the studio and suck live,
others put on great live shows in spite of their suspect material.
Maybe that explains why I can be happy slam dancing with the skinheads
at a ska show, or sitting at home listening to Joy Division - depending
on my mood.
Of course, Matt is one of the few who are great live and in the studio
... although I really wish I had more evidence (i.e. tours and albums)
to validate my hypothesis :-)
Ted
> On 03/30/98 17:07:50 you wrote:
> >
> >In a message dated 98-03-22 17:03:57 EST, lea@sirius.com writes:
> >
> ><< I loved Joy Division but was a bit less enamoured of New order. i
> > dont know why, exactly, they are really nice folk >>
> >
> >Nice??? You may not have seen some of their NY shows. They openly
> cursed at
> >the audience and often played the whole show facing the back wall. I
> would say
> >one of the nastiest bands in the business. That said and done, I do
> like a lot
> >of the songs!!
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >
>
> They are nice when talking one on one, and I think they really do not
> performing. Unfortunately for a lot of musicians that
> is really part of the package deal.
>
> New Order has never been know for the "stage show", a lot bands are no
> showpeople. So I just listen to the music and
> avoid paying for something that would rather be sitting in a studio
> making sythetic sounds.
>
> I've never witnessed the cursing, maybe somebody took all the green
> M&Ms out of the bowl instead of the brown ones. Uh,
> that was van Halen, oh well.
>
> ciao
>
> Language is a virus. Laurie Anderson & WIlliam Burroughs.
> Goth isn't dead, it's just moved to Canada. Anonymous.
> Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo
> Picasso.
> Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human
> soul. Mark Twain.
> The storm starts when the drops start dropping. When the drops stop
> dropping then the storm starts stopping. Dr. Seuss.
> A lot of people may say to just be yourself. But, if you really do
> that. It is the most threatening, subversive thing you can possibly
> do. K. Lambert.
>
> email: k333@ix.netcom.com
> aka: euthelene, kshark, wave queen and midi mashar
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In a message dated 3/31/98 7:01:19 PM !!!First Boot!!!, k333@ix.netcom.com
writes:
<< New Order has never been know for the "stage show", a lot bands are not
showpeople. >>
I wouldn't care about lack of stage show, cursing at people who paid to see
you is a little much though. I did like what they played.
Steve
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>Just a quick question, especially for all the die hard fans ie. Lea. I'm
>the only person whose heard the track Lip Trippin' a very rare THE THE
>track?
FYI, saw the Volume CD with that track on it this weekend for $3 usd.
If anyone wants it, i'll try to see if it's still there...
JaY!
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FYI:
I found more copies of the "Blue" and
"Gadgetree" (gadgets) albums this weekend.
This is early stuff for Matt. I'll sell them for any
reasonable offer...
JaY!
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Hey Check out Curve's new album it is worth it. If you can cath their live show go for it too. they are in tour now.
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>Just a quick question, especially for all the die hard fans ie. Lea. I'm
>the only person whose heard the track Lip Trippin' a very rare THE THE
>track?
FYI, saw the Volume CD with that track on it this weekend for $3 usd.
If anyone wants it, i'll try to see if it's still there...
JaY!
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From: Benjamin Quincy Cabell
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Subject: ...Matt's Lip Tripping - hear it *now* on the WWW...
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:27:03 -0500
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Hi all -
People were talking about Lip Tripping, so I put it on my web site for
everyone to have a listen (I have it on-line in Real Audio format, and if
you're interested in an MP3 version, e-mail me). I think it's a terrific
little track. If only Matt would release more of the stuff he otherwise
shelves... Look toward the end of this e-mail for the URL of Lip
Tripping... first I need to ask a favor...
I have a user-driven FAQ on-line now, what's neat about it is that users
can instantly add info to it, as well as read the info that's in it. For
now it's pretty bare, which is why I need help. Please, please, please,
please contribute to it (or read from it) by going here:
http://www.thethe.com/cgi-bin/fom.cgi
Okay, here's the Lip Tripping URL:
http://www.thethe.com/Music/index.html#Volume Six
Enjoy!
- - Quincy
Benjamin 'Quincy' Cabell V
Quincy
Besiex Creations
the The
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From: "Ken Maclean"
To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Joy division or misery multiplication.
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:06:52 MST
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Nice to see activity on the lazarus list again.
The question as to why some the the admirers also seem fond of Joy
division/new order is an interesting thread (because i fall into that
category. Self! Self! Self!)and certainly beats groveling into the ether
for a listen of "Gun Sluts". Oooooooooooohhhhh pleaaase? NO? oh well
sod ya then! Personally i think they both share two things. Originality
and timing.I only really started getting into music , apart from a
passing interest in what was on the Top of the Pops, around 1977 and it
was only really around 1979 that i actually had any money to buy records
(records grandad ? Did they have cars then?)During the very late 70s and
the early 80s Joy division and their transition into New Order (which
was actually quite gradual) and the the were some of the most original
and interesting stuff around, especially for those of us who thought
Wham,culture club and Kajagoogoo were wankers !
Lyrically i don't think they have much in common , in fact words have
never been JD/NOs strong point although as someone mentioned previously
they do seem heavily influenced by the VU. Don't believe me ? Where do
you think "just like Sister Ray said " came from ?
What JD and Matt do have in common is a gift for creating a certain
dramatic and sexually charged atmosphere . I cant remember the title but
there is a joy division song that builds and builds in the same way as
erotic tension during sex, but after that description i will make a
point of looking it up .
I am curious to know how many other (if any ) the the acolytes share my
passion for the beautiful south and Del Amitri ?
As for a cure for a broken heart ? i,m not sure there is a panacea but
one thing i am absolutely certain off, you should under no circumstances
write and show people your poetry while still affected by it.
love and kisse to all who want them and gruff masculine hanshakes to
everybody else.
Ken
P.S. Thanks for hooking me up again Behfar now i've made the jump over
the Atlantic.
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:42:42 -0500 (EST)
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On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Mr C Snook wrote:
> Just a quick note for now. I note that a few comments being made about
> New Order. I'm to see them LIVE at the Phionex Festival over here in the
> UK.
wait, i haven't been following this thread...am i to understand that
NewOrder have re-formed for the 5th time?!
*
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From: k333@ix.netcom.com
To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: lip tripping rare
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:17:31 -0600 (CST)
Message-Id: <199833122141136334@>
well if you were all smart little alternative UK lovers, you'd have Lip Tripping on the Volume CD,
which number i have no idea...
just to let you all know it is available. unfortunately, dear Volume took the nose dive last year
and left me with a subscription and no more issues. to quote Kyle, you bastards.
email: k333@ix.netcom.com
new computers do not necessarily mean new intelligence. K. Lambert
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:41:52 EST
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>I am curious to know how many other (if any ) the the acolytes share my
>passion for the beautiful south and Del Amitri ?
Well, I just love Del Amitri. Just listened to their album, "Change
Everything" today, as a matter of fact. That's about it, just thought I'd let
it be known.
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