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Subject: two quick things...
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:44:38 -0700 (MST)
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1) Terry, please email me directly when you get a chance.
2) I'm still looking for the The vs. Hank, maybe someone would either be
willing to make a tape or trade, email me directly if you have any ideas.
- -JWH
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From: jdrahn@alpha-us.com
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Subject: the The vs. Hank
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:35:43 -0800
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On 11/4/97, JWH wrote:
>1) Terry, please email me directly when you get a chance.
>2) I'm still looking for the The vs. Hank, maybe someone would either be
>willing to make a tape or trade, email me directly if you have any ideas.
Forgive my ignorance, but is this a different album than Hanky Panky?
Axlotl
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From: Doug Chase
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Subject: RE: the The vs. Hank
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:55:35 -0800
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The The vs. Hank was a promo only CD that had the Matt versions of the
song back to back with the Hank versions. It's interesting.
Doug
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> From: jdrahn@alpha-us.com [SMTP:jdrahn@alpha-us.com]
>
> >2) I'm still looking for the The vs. Hank, maybe someone would either
> be
> >willing to make a tape or trade, email me directly if you have any
> ideas.
>
> Forgive my ignorance, but is this a different album than Hanky Panky?
>
> Axlotl
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From: "David B. Hirsch"
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Subject: Re: the The vs. Hank
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:50:32 -0500 (EST)
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the the vs. hank is a promo with the hanky panky songs back to back with
the hank williams originals.
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"My cold, cold heart is melted now. I seek for peace but don't know how.
I go to bed but only weep. My cold, cold heart won't let me sleep."
-- hank williams.
On Tue, 4 Nov 1997 jdrahn@alpha-us.com wrote:
>
> >2) I'm still looking for the The vs. Hank, maybe someone would either be
> >willing to make a tape or trade, email me directly if you have any ideas.
>
> Forgive my ignorance, but is this a different album than Hanky Panky?
>
> Axlotl
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Subject: The The for sale
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 05:20:06 -0500 (EST)
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Hello-
Just a quick message from Dumpo Music:
We have recently added 100s of records and CDs to our original inventory of
collectible merchandise from the 1980s! I am extending this invitation to
you
to visit our web-site and examine our selection of The The items for
yourself:
http://members.aol.com/dumpo712cd
Who knows, maybe here you will be able to find that rare single that has been
eluding you for all these years...
We look forward to hearing from you!
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From: Vonn Campbell
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Subject: RE: The The for sale
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:01:48 -0500
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Don't sugar coat it!!! Tell 'em how you really feel !!!
Ne Obliviscaris,
Vonn "Devo" Campbell ---> mailto:Vonn.Campbell@worldnet.att.net
"I threw in my money and made my wish, but sleeping boys catch no fish." ...Matt Johnson
"Give her some good." ...Andy Griffith
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And YOU should know that AOL prohibits UCE. That is Unsolicited
Commercial E mail. This is terms for account termination , right here.
This is a discussion list. Every record store in the country has The
The records.The fact that it is a discussion list that is about a
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If you plan to join this list for discussion then fine, put your store
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But to drop by and drop an ad isnt ok with me. I get enough of this
crap as it is, and lists are a refuge from it.
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Hello-
Just a quick message from Dumpo Music:
We have recently added 100s of records and CDs to our original inventory
of
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to
you
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yourself:
http://members.aol.com/dumpo712cd
Who knows, maybe here you will be able to find that rare single that has
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We look forward to hearing from you!
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You know me Devo,
An old old nasty dragon lady. You will all be just as crotchety when you
either
A) hit 40 (if yall live that long)
B) open your 15,000 th piece of spam (if yall live that long)
Its my job as a tribal elder!
lea
> Don't sugar coat it!!! Tell 'em how you really feel !!!
>
>
> Ne Obliviscaris,
>
> Vonn "Devo" Campbell ---> mailto:Vonn.Campbell@worldnet.att.net
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And YOU should know that AOL prohibits UCE. That is Unsolicited
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This is a discussion list. Every record store in the country has The
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We look forward to hearing from you!
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From: Lea Curry
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This is an old old message I came across while deleting but Im not about
to let it go. Especially as the crotchety old woman that I AM!!!! I
responded to the original thread , but I dont think to this post!
Brian said: (long ago)
> Beatles Alternative? That's what I say but then why do some alternative
> stations feel they need to play their old crap just because they have
> anthologies out. Lennon and McCarthy were out of touch lyrically then and
> things haven't changed.
>
> Brian
>
>Ahem......How old are you young man? (she says, lowering her glasses, and
looking over them, with her BEST librarian voice....)
I assure you that the Lennon and McCartney were NOT out of touch then,
lyrically or otherwise. In fact they pretty much wrote the script for a
rather large "trip". (for the cartoon travelougue version see Yellow
Submarine, for feature film coverage see The Magic Christian (complete
with fake Beatle track) or Magical Mystery Tour - with real Beatle
soundtrack, and for film Noir version see HELP!). Perhps the drugs just
aren't what they used to be...now. I suggest you have heard too many
muzak renditions of Lennon McCartney and dont have a perspective of
which order things happened in. Im sure the lyrics removed from their
set and setting are not terribly meaningful to you now, but dont assume
they were out of touch then.
The very early Beatles represented a twist (very alternative) on top 40
of the time (faster and much wilder, especially for white boys), but
still reflected the then popular teen themes. (probably still popular
couched in newer language). With "Rubber Soul" and then particularly
"Revolver"-- on, their music reflected a mass change in conciousness,
playing out all over the planet, that very few others were able to
articulate. There was much play on words, and a constant subcontent
that was extremely "in touch". That subcontent might not be visible to
you now, in the same way that the adult subcontent on Bugs Bunny
cartoons isnt visable to a 5 year old, but its there alright.
The Stones followed with material like : By Her Satanic Majesty's
Request" but soon went back to rock n roll, on a slightly more mature,
but still raucscious level, that had become the staple of the then "new
alternative FM rock stations". Alternative FM stations appeared around
1967 (?) although there had previously been a couple for jazz before
that. They were not called ALTERNATIVE then, they were called
"underground". Same diff, trust me.
What you call "Alternative Rock" was ushered in by the Beatles, and
made commonplace by the also-rans of that time, up to this time. (hear
anybody produced by Todd Rundgren who is way too commercial for MY
taste,.. but the Beatle's sound is regularly copped by everone from U2
to Matt Johnson ). They started
it and they helped bring about an alternative to top 40. Its an
alternative that YOU may feel is unique to your time, but I assure you
its just a continuum. Since the early (very early) 80's there really
hasnt been awful much that is original, and yet a new generation of
listeners seems to think they invented it. That is humorous.
Matt lists one of his most profound early influences as John Lennon, in
his press release for Dusk, by the way. he recounts hearing this music
in his father's bar if I remember correctly, and being "inspired" by
it. Id call that relevant. I'd call it "in touch".
Lea
who still likes the Beatles just fine, as well as Psychic TV!
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Subject: the the surfing
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:56:49 -0800
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Can anyone give me a list of good The The sites, besides www=2Ethethe=2Ecom=
, and the
epic one? Whenever I enter "the the" in any search engine field, I get one=
or
two sites, and about 100,000 poorly proofread sites: IE: "=2E=2E=2EI bough=
t the the
new Mariah Carey CD and it ROCKS!" I could use some help, please=2E
Axlotl
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From: "Benjamin 'Quincy' Cabell V"
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Subject: ...www.thethe.com site fixed...
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:27:33 +0000
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Hi -
Just a note to let people know that I finally fixed all the little problems with
my site (resulting from changing the host machine's OS from Windows NT to Linux
at the same time that I moved 600 miles away from the machine at the same time
that I started looking for full time employment (post academia)).
The exchange boards, search mechanism, guestbook, and RealAudio server are all
fully operational again.
Sorry for any and all inconvenience...
I'm planning a major make-over for the site soon, so if anyone has material
they'd like to see included, images, text, RealAudio, MP3, etc. please
pass them along.
Take care.
- - - Quincy
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Benjamin 'Quincy' Cabell V
Quincy
Besiex Creations
the The
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From: "Benjamin 'Quincy' Cabell V"
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Subject: ...a list of the The sites...
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:29:33 +0000
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I have a page for other sites at:
http://www.thethe.com/other_the_the_links.html
and here's what's in that list (any other sites, anyone?):
True Happiness This Way Lies
http://www.ingsoc.com/thethe/
Gregg Geschke's The The pages
http://www.itronix.com/~geschke/music/thethe/thethe.html
Infected mailing info/archives
http://www.cs.uchicago.edu/~behfar/infected.html
Slow Train to Dawn
http://www.oanet.com/homepage/sleeper/thethe.htm
Fabio Lacerda's The The pages
http://www.io.com/~fabiol/the_the.html
Steve Hill's Discography
http://shill.simplenet.com/tt/thethe20.htm
the The at 4AD
http://www.evo.org/html/group/the.html#the">
Epic/Sony's Site
http://www.music.sony.com/Music/ArtistInfo/TheThe.html
JaY's Collection of the The Links
- - -?? Moved or gone but don't know where... still checking for this link... ??-
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Quincy
Besiex Creations
the The
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From: jdrahn@alpha-us.com
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Subject: the the websites
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 9:29:37 -0800
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I (Axlotl) wrote:
Can anyone give me a list of good The The sites, besides www=2Ethethe=2Ecom=
,
and the
epic one? Whenever I enter "the the" in any search engine field, I get one
or
two sites, and about 100,000 poorly proofread sites: IE: "=2E=2E=2EI bough=
t the
the
new Mariah Carey CD and it ROCKS!" I could use some help, please=2E
and Claudio responded to my request:
I really don't understand what are you talking about=2E
Could you be more simple?
Maybe I should just ask another, more direct question: Does anyone know th=
e
best place to get The The import singles from? Or do any of you have any f=
or
sale? =20
I'm specifically looking for Cold Spell Ahead, plus any others besides Love=
is
Stronger Than Death and Jealous of Youth, which have unreleased tracks=2E
Also, can anyone tell me if the song on the Judge Dredd soundtrack is
unreleased, and if so, worth buying?
Thanks,
Axlotl
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From: "MBICKERD.UK.ORACLE.COM"
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Subject: Worth Buying?
Date: 24 Nov 97 09:59:14 +0000
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Axlotl wrote :-
>Also, can anyone tell me if the song on the Judge Dredd soundtrack is
>unreleased, and if so, worth buying?
I bought the Judge Dredd soundtrack last year and it does contain a
previously
unreleased track, Darkness Falls.
It's good - dark, loud, mean and moody (sort of Dog's Of Lust but less
funky).
The other (non-The The) songs are pretty good too - bit of a mixed bag but
the
Cure and Leftfield's contribution's being my favourites.
Half the album is the film's instrumental orchestral stuff which isn't
particularly good to listen to without a film to go with it but ok if you
like
that sort of thing.
Cheers,
Mark
Henley-on-Thames
UK
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From: Behfar Bastani-Booshehri
To: infected@purpletape.cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: forwarded message from kelly514@juno.com
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:30:48 -0600 (CST)
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here's old stuff that never made it to the list.
[ forwarding on author's request. ]
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From: kelly514@juno.com
Subject: Now Back to Lennon vs Matt
Ok Ok
There is alternative and then there is ALTERNATIVE.
The Beatles music at the time was alternative in melody only and I was a
kid who loved it because deep lyrics or reflections on the truth of life
weren't important to me then. Songs like "All we need is love" would have
to be sung in a sarcastic tone today for it to be considered alternative
and if it was sarcastically sung like that in the 60's it would have been
thought provoking. Matt sees them as influences mostly for the melody
sake as far as I can see because although he might be as confused about
the world as Lennon was, he doesn't pass himself off as God and he asks
the right questions. Lennon thought he was God and went around telling
what others should do, Matt doesn't. Lennon
practiced Eastern religion and philosophy where one is seen as a god and
meditation is the process of emptying one's mind. Matt comes off as very
humble and he fills his mind with the questions of life. Richard Bulter
of the Furs/Love Spit Love also saw Lennon as an influence but he is more
in touch with the world than even Matt and his lyrics don't clean out
one's mind but opens it. He hasn't written one flaky song in all of his 9
or 10 releases. Lennon comes close to Robert Smith (Cure) in how lost he
was but even Smith doesn't seek out power and fame unlike Lennon and was
quoted in saying in the mid 80's something to the effect "if we ever get
popular then the group has lost its purpose". As far as the rest of the
Beatles, well they speak for themselves.
Matt is definitely one of the great song writers of the 80's and 90's.
BMK
On Thu, 06 Nov 1997 08:47:39 -0800 Lea Curry writes:
>
>> Beatles Alternative? That's what I say but then why do some
>alternative
>> stations feel they need to play their old crap just because they
>have
>> anthologies out. Lennon and McCarthy were out of touch lyrically
>then and
>> things haven't changed.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>Ahem......How old are you young man? (she says, lowering her
>glasses, and looking over them, with her BEST librarian voice....)
>
>
>I assure you that the Lennon and McCartney were NOT out of touch then,
>lyrically or otherwise. In fact they pretty much wrote the script for
>a
>rather large "trip". (for the cartoon travelougue version see Yellow
>Submarine, for feature film coverage see The Magic Christian
>(complete
>with fake Beatle track) or Magical Mystery Tour - with real Beatle
>soundtrack, and for film Noir version see HELP!). Perhps the drugs
>just
>aren't what they used to be...now. I suggest you have heard too many
>muzak renditions of Lennon McCartney and dont have a perspective of
>which order things happened in. Im sure the lyrics removed from their
>set and setting are not terribly meaningful to you now, but dont
>assume
>they were out of touch then.
>
> The very early Beatles represented a twist (very alternative) on top
>40
>of the time (faster and much wilder, especially for white boys), but
>still reflected the then popular teen themes. (probably still popular
>couched in newer language). With "Rubber Soul" and then particularly
>"Revolver"-- on, their music reflected a mass change in conciousness,
>playing out all over the planet, that very few others were able to
>articulate. There was much play on words, and a constant subcontent
>that was extremely "in touch". That subcontent might not be visible
>to
>you now, in the same way that the adult subcontent on Bugs Bunny
>cartoons isnt visable to a 5 year old, but its there alright.
>
> The Stones followed with material like : By Her Satanic Majesty's
>Request" but soon went back to rock n roll, on a slightly more mature,
>but still raucscious level, that had become the staple of the then
>"new
>alternative FM rock stations". Alternative FM stations appeared
>around
>1967 (?) although there had previously been a couple for jazz before
>that. They were not called ALTERNATIVE then, they were called
>"underground". Same diff, trust me.
>
> What you call "Alternative Rock" was ushered in by the Beatles, and
>made commonplace by the also-rans of that time, up to this time. (hear
>anybody produced by Todd Rundgren who is way too commercial for MY
>taste,.. but the Beatle's sound is regularly copped by everone from U2
>to Matt Johnson ). They started
>it and they helped bring about an alternative to top 40. Its an
>alternative that YOU may feel is unique to your time, but I assure you
>its just a continuum. Since the early (very early) 80's there really
>hasnt been awful much that is original, and yet a new generation of
>listeners seems to think they invented it. That is humorous.
>
> Matt lists one of his most profound early influences as John Lennon,
>in
>his press release for Dusk, by the way. he recounts hearing this music
>in his father's bar if I remember correctly, and being "inspired" by
>it. Id call that relevant. I'd call it "in touch".
>
>Lea
>
>who still likes the Beatles just fine, as well as Psychic TV!
>
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