october 95
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From: "Darren \"Dez\" Lightfoot"
To: Genepool@aol.com
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: the The's World
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 12:55:33 +0100 (BST)
Message-Id:
Has anybody watched the video the The versus the world. Could somebody
tell me if it is any good or not as I am thinking of purchasing it.
Cheers.
DEZ
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From: Brandon K Snavely
To: "Darren \"Dez\" Lightfoot"
cc: Genepool@aol.com, infected@CS.UChicago.EDU
Subject: Re: the The's World
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:26:45 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
> Has anybody watched the video the The versus the world. Could somebody
> tell me if it is any good or not as I am thinking of purchasing it.
>
> DEZ
Yes, it's good. It's a concert video from the Mind Bomb Tour (I think
it's from a London show). Just watching Johnny play guitar makes the
whole thing worth it.
Freeze
bksst6+@pitt.edu
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From: Abu Hajj
To: infected@CS.UChicago.EDU
Subject: Re: the The's World
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:41:28 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
hiya!
Darren "Dez" Lightfoot wrote:
> Has anybody watched the video the The versus the world. Could somebody
> tell me if it is any good or not as I am thinking of purchasing it.
i have both Infected and the The versus the world. It is my opinion that
tT v W is somewhat better. It is basically the best songs from the final
three days of his European tour. The music is, as always, high quality,
the pieces chosen for the clip include my favorite, Uncertain Smile (with
an excellent live piano solo), and in general, i found the whole set of
music to flow very well.
I totally enjoyed it, and i think that you would, too.
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E Pluribus Unix
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From: Jan Wirken
To: "Darren \"Dez\" Lightfoot"
Cc: Genepool@aol.com, infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: the The's World
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:34:42 +0100 (MET)
Message-Id:
Of the three video's it's not the best one. It's just a registration of
the concerts in the Royal Albert hall, London. Lots of smoke and a MJ
wandering around. It is easey to see that by then he didn't have much
stage experience. The last tour, after Dusk, he did a lot better. But if
you're a fan and you want to see a live video of the the it's not bad.
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"I'll never get out of this world alive", Hank Williams
e-mail: jwirken@robeco.nl
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From: djelline@haverford.edu (David M. Jellinek)
To: "Darren \"Dez\" Lightfoot" ,
Genepool@aol.com
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu, uthelene@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: the The's World
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 95 09:40:34 EDT
Message-Id:
At 12:55 PM 10/2/95, Darren \"Dez\" Lightfoot wrote:
>Has anybody watched the video the The versus the world. Could somebody
>tell me if it is any good or not as I am thinking of purchasing it.
>
>Cheers.
>
>DEZ
Yeah, its pretty good.
Not as enjoyable as the Infected video...
I paid a lot for it, because I bought a Japanese import version a few
months before the American version was released. Was it worth $50?
Probably not unless you're really into Matt. Worth $20 (Which I have seen
it for at HMV in Boston)? Yeah, if you're a fan.
Hope that helps.
Dave
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"The vice of our times indeed appears to be that nothing is so firm as that
it could not be uprooted, nothing so certain that it could not be disputed,
and nothing so sacred that it could not be violated."
Philippe Duplessis-Mornay, 1579
David Jellinek
djelline@haverford.edu
610-642-5511
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From: uthelene@ix.netcom.com (Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh )
To: Genepool@aol.com
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: 2nd Pressing Porn. of Despair FS
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:51:57 -0700
Message-Id: <199510022251.PAA14209@ix7.ix.netcom.com>
You wrote:
>
><Despair LP
>for sale or possible trade. If you have items you want me to consider
>trading, let me know what they are. Otherwise, $25. plus postage gets
you
>this fine collectable.??????????????
>
>
>Is this legit? A second pressing? I never met or knew anyone with any
>pressing. What is the track listing?
>
>Steve
>
straight from MATT, there is no pressing of POD, so me thinks someone
is trying to pull a fast one. What i had and was told was POG was a
test pressing of the UK - PERFECT extended 5 or 6 songer. Also rare
but at least it was pressed, it did contain some of the POG tracks. So
i would want certification and pictures and a signed legal contract
saying this was POG...yes i'm skeptical. euthelene, great to be back
finally.
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From: Genepool@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: 2nd Pressing Porn. of Despair FS
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 10:50:37 -0400
Message-ID: <951003105036_35278383@mail04.mail.aol.com>
<first?
It is pretty funny. I saw you second post but, had already sent my message. I
was surprised that so many people didn't read it. Obviously the mere mention
or POD is enough to make us all loose our minds!
Steve
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From: bgreen@mv.us.adobe.com (Bowie Green)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: 2nd Pressing Porn. of Despair FS
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:40:07 -0800
Message-Id:
Didn't anyone read my second post, or were you all too excited about the
first? I revised my ad stating my mistake. I had just read about
Pornography of Despair and accidentally typed that instead of Burning Blue
Soul.
Geeze, enough of this already! It's Burning Blue Soul okay?!!!!!!
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From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: does the porno of despair exist?
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 22:14:36 -0400
Message-ID: <951002221425_70367376@emout04.mail.aol.com>
back last winter when matt went on aol, he showed up in a private chat room
for a while afterwards. we asked him a million questions. edited from the
transcript:
~~Imus: Matt does the Pornography of Despair really exist in album form?
~~THETHEXXX: The Porno of despair does exist.
matt has been known to lie now and then, so who knows?
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From: "Mr R. Forster"
To: Hirschdave@aol.com
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: does the porno of despair exist?
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 08:42:10 +0100 (BST)
Message-Id: <199510030742.IAA24752@uxa.liv.ac.uk>
I think that Matt was telling the truth, POD exists on various early
B-Sides...
In the last mail Hirschdave@aol.com said:
>
> back last winter when matt went on aol, he showed up in a private chat room
> for a while afterwards. we asked him a million questions. edited from the
> transcript:
>
> ~~Imus: Matt does the Pornography of Despair really exist in album form?
>
> ~~THETHEXXX: The Porno of despair does exist.
>
> matt has been known to lie now and then, so who knows?
>
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From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: does the porno of despair exist?
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 07:30:49 -0400
Message-ID: <951003073048_115040394@emout04.mail.aol.com>
yes, i know it exists in b-sides because i have them. but on an album? who
knows...
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From: 3dvideo@magi.com (Rob Ferguson)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Getting Away with Murder!
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:03:59 -0400
Message-Id: <9510031904.AA28674@magi.com>
Welcome to the circus
and here is the center ring
your ring master Eto knows your needs
you'll enjoy everything.
3 CCD's of illusion, helical scanned lies
I'd be funny if only I could just dry my eyes
You see his poker face and you know
that lady justice has turned a blind eye.
How could anyone let this man get away
with this murderous lie?
I think the melting pot is boiling over
the feeling of sickness comes over me, I
know Political Correctness has it's purpose
but I still fail to see, How a man because of
his colour can do this to you her or me!
You Fucker OJ, You Fucker.
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From: Behfar Bastani-Booshehri
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Getting Away with Murder!
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:26:35 -0500
Message-Id: <199510032026.PAA12704@gargoyle.cs.uchicago.edu>
Rob Ferguson writes:
>
> Welcome to the circus
> and here is the center ring
> your ring master Eto knows your needs
> you'll enjoy everything.
> 3 CCD's of illusion, helical scanned lies
> I'd be funny if only I could just dry my eyes
>
> You see his poker face and you know
> that lady justice has turned a blind eye.
> How could anyone let this man get away
> with this murderous lie?
>
> I think the melting pot is boiling over
call me ignorant, but what does oj's case
have to do with the melting pot?
regards,
behfar
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From: Jeff Croft
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Getting Away with Murder!
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:35:20 -0600 (MDT)
Message-ID:
On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, Behfar Bastani-Booshehri wrote:
> Rob Ferguson writes:
> >
> > Welcome to the circus
> > and here is the center ring
> > your ring master Eto knows your needs
> > you'll enjoy everything.
> > 3 CCD's of illusion, helical scanned lies
> > I'd be funny if only I could just dry my eyes
> >
> > You see his poker face and you know
> > that lady justice has turned a blind eye.
> > How could anyone let this man get away
> > with this murderous lie?
> >
> > I think the melting pot is boiling over
>
> call me ignorant, but what does oj's case
> have to do with the melting pot?
Call me ignorant too, but how can so many people in the country be so
sure of the verdict when they didn't actually witness the trial? It has
been the hot topic here at work and I'm appalled that people who saw
five-minute blurbs from time to time on the news think that they know
whether or not OJ is guilty. Well, I'm sure as hell glad I wasn't tried
by any of the *many* people who are *sure* he's guilty without actually
having seen the evidence...
Jeff Croft
jdcroft@eng.utah.edu
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From: Madhatter
To: Jeff Croft
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Getting Away with Murder!
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 14:10:52 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id:
On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, Jeff Croft wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, Behfar Bastani-Booshehri wrote:
>
> > Rob Ferguson writes:
> > >
> > > Welcome to the circus
> > > and here is the center ring
> > > your ring master Eto knows your needs
> > > you'll enjoy everything.
> > > 3 CCD's of illusion, helical scanned lies
> > > I'd be funny if only I could just dry my eyes
> > >
> > > You see his poker face and you know
> > > that lady justice has turned a blind eye.
> > > How could anyone let this man get away
> > > with this murderous lie?
> > >
> > > I think the melting pot is boiling over
> >
> > call me ignorant, but what does oj's case
> > have to do with the melting pot?
>
> Call me ignorant too, but how can so many people in the country be so
> sure of the verdict when they didn't actually witness the trial? It has
> been the hot topic here at work and I'm appalled that people who saw
> five-minute blurbs from time to time on the news think that they know
> whether or not OJ is guilty. Well, I'm sure as hell glad I wasn't tried
> by any of the *many* people who are *sure* he's guilty without actually
> having seen the evidence...
>
> Jeff Croft
> jdcroft@eng.utah.edu
>
I think what pisses me off more than anything is that people were
proclaiming his innocence a year and a half ago, simply because he's a
black football star. I mean, if you were going to judge the case simply
by his character, why not examine the fact that he's a wife-beater?
Thank you for allowing to express my opinion on this pertinent THE news/
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From: euroboy@postoffice.ptd.net (micah stupak)
To: 3dvideo@magi.com (Rob Ferguson)
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Getting Away with Murder!
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 21:22:53 -0400
Message-Id: <199510040122.VAA05417@ns1.ptd.net>
[a really dumb oj thing snipped]
dude, get a life... this is the last place oj should be.
>You Fucker OJ, You Fucker.
now this is just dumb.
tenderspot of the daphne.
euroboy@postoffice.ptd.net
my inner child is a sick little bastard.
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From: djelline@haverford.edu (David M. Jellinek)
To: 3dvideo@magi.com (Rob Ferguson)
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Getting Away with Murder!
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 95 15:24:41 EDT
Message-Id:
>Welcome to the circus
>and here is the center ring
>your ring master Eto knows your needs
>you'll enjoy everything.
>3 CCD's of illusion, helical scanned lies
>I'd be funny if only I could just dry my eyes
>
>You see his poker face and you know
>that lady justice has turned a blind eye.
>How could anyone let this man get away
>with this murderous lie?
>
>I think the melting pot is boiling over
>the feeling of sickness comes over me, I
>know Political Correctness has it's purpose
>but I still fail to see, How a man because of
>his colour can do this to you her or me!
>
>
>You Fucker OJ, You Fucker.
To the synth beat of Soul Mining or the jazzy guitars of Dusk?
Dave
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"The vice of our times indeed appears to be that nothing is so firm as that
it could not be uprooted, nothing so certain that it could not be disputed,
and nothing so sacred that it could not be violated."
Philippe Duplessis-Mornay, 1579
David Jellinek
djelline@haverford.edu
610-642-5511
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From: 29DELCHER@CUA.EDU
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: the THE
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 18:26:37 -0400 (EDT)
Message-id: <01HW0HJDRW0290MUCE@CU4300.CUA.EDU>
Hello out there infected people. Got a favor to ask of anyone.
Can someone send me a complete discography of THE THE. I have tried to print
off of the web page but Iit just wont work here. Plus if there are any
collectors out there I would like to chat with you about trades and other
stuff. Send replies to 29delcher@cua.edu.
thanks
dave D.
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From: PJ Peterson
To: Infected
Subject: Gun SLuTs?
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:29:07 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id:
Here's a real basic and stupid question. I've been out of the loop for a
while. Is there anything new regarding Gun SLuts? Is Matt still
recording? Is it still due next year? Etc.
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"And so, after a three-minute downpour, he became ludicrously attired for
the rest of the day."- Calvin
"Bittersweet... where joy and sadness meet." Moxy Fruvous
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From: uthelene@ix.netcom.com (Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh )
To: PJ Peterson
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Gun SLuTs?
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 07:20:59 -0700
Message-Id: <199510061420.HAA17541@ix6.ix.netcom.com>
You wrote:
>
>
>Here's a real basic and stupid question. I've been out of the loop
for a
>while. Is there anything new regarding Gun SLuts? Is Matt still
>recording? Is it still due next year? Etc.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
seems as if we may see this the beginning of next year rather than this
fall, rumors abound from the recording studio...and my sources at EPIK
/ SONY whatever conglomorate they be say it is behind schedule. but
i'm open to better news...euthelene who still is looking for sharkey
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From: Smiley Boy
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: vs. The World and other things
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 18:05:22 -0600 (MDT)
Message-Id:
Hey all,
My opinion on "The The vs. The World," video -- GET IT NOW. If
you are a fan of live concert material, this is a beautiful production.
Besides which, it contains 'Jealous of Youth' which really must be
experienced live -- it's damn near orgasmic!!!
Now that I'm done my pitch for the video I have a few questions
that I hope any of you can help me out with.
1) I was at my local CD pusher today and noticed that The The has a song
on the "Judge Dredd" soundtrack called 'Darkness Falls' (if memory
serves me correctly) is this song found on any other album, single
etc... Will it be on Gunsluts? or do I need to buy the soundtrack to get
the song?
2) Do any of you know of a store that has a relatively decent selection
of The The stuff. Living in Calgary, I have a real tough time getting my
hands on all the stuff I need.
Thanx in advance
- S.B. :)
- --------------------------------------------------------
If I could choose the life I pleased
Then I would be a boatman
Along the canals and the rivers free
No hasty words are spoken
My only law, the river breeze
Would take me to the open seas
- The Levellers
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From: ABL5259@EXODUS.VALPO.EDU
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: let's cut this out.
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 20:04:33 -0500 (CDT)
Message-Id: <951003200433.10a71@EXODUS.VALPO.EDU>
Ummm, this list is about the The, and anything pertaining to the The.
Like everybody else on mailing lists, i've got a lot to wade through.
That will be about enough.
Thank you,
Andy Larson
abl5259@exodus.valpo.edu
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From: ceylon@shadow.net
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: various
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 02:04:43 -0400
Message-Id: <199510040604.CAA09907@shadow.net>
To cover a bit of ground:
1) New Electronic album is due this Fall.
2) Eric Schmerhorn is slated as the axeman (guitarist) for the upcoming Iggy
Pop release (Early '96). This would suggest that he has completed the better
part of 'Gun Sluts', as he cannot do two albums at once.(?)
3) Do any patrons of this list find the content of "From Dusk Till Dawn"
extremely insightful?
On now--"Jealous Of Youth"--Courtesy of Dave.
E
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- --------------------"THE UNIVERSE IS A CHICKEN"-------------------------
M.K. O'Brien
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From: "Paul Spiers"
To: infected@CS.UChicago.EDU
Subject: Re: various
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 21:27:23 +0000
Message-Id: <199510042028.VAA15964@oberon.wintermute.co.uk>
> From: ceylon@shadow.net
>
> 3) Do any patrons of this list find the content of "From Dusk Till Dawn"
> extremely insightful?
>
No, but then again what are the problems in the world today? ;-)
The old bloke in tears was quite sad though.
Paul
________________________________________________________
Paul Spiers / DONS 1995/96
Aberdeen Red Fear SC / P9 W7 D1 L1 F22 A11 Pos-2nd
howburn@wintermute.co.uk / Top Scorer: Scott Booth 7
or FN0055@grampian.gov.uk / Next: Huns (Home) 7/10/95
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From: ceylon@shadow.net
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Various clarification
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:02:49 -0400
Message-Id: <199510042202.SAA15858@shadow.net>
- ------------------------------------------Explanation-----------------------
- --------------
When I asked:
3) Do any patrons of this list find the content of "From Dusk Till Dawn"
> extremely insightful?
>
And then somebody answered:
>No, but then again what are the problems in the world today? ;-)
I realized how obtuse my question truly was. Perhaps I should be more
specific: The question as I originally stated it, but in regards to the
lyric it spawned.
- -----------------------------------------------------Question---------------
- ------------------------------------
Part 2-- In the past MJ has worked with several prominent artists and
musicians i.e. Marr, Pope, Christopherson (to mention but a few) etc. . . My
question is--Who would you like to see Matt work with in the future?
Perhaps, the aforementioned (by Matt) "Hymn album" could be co-produced
(w/Lampcov of course, because his dark style is suited to hymns;+) by one
of the Chieftians :)
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- --------------
- --------------------"THE UNIVERSE IS A CHICKEN"-------------------------
M.K. O'Brien
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From: Behfar Bastani-Booshehri
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Various clarification
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:51:16 -0500
Message-Id: <199510051851.NAA18495@gargoyle.cs.uchicago.edu>
ceylon@shadow.net writes:
> Perhaps, the aforementioned (by Matt) "Hymn album" could be co-produced
> (w/Lampcov of course, because his dark style is suited to hymns;+) by one
> of the Chieftians :)
could you give some more info on this
hymn album as i've never seen it mentioned
before..
also, about marr being involved in the eric johnson
project, i doubt that very much, since marr has not
been into covering other artist all that much (at
least that's how it was in the smiths days..)
behfar
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From: Madhatter
To: ceylon@shadow.net
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Various clarification
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:16:45 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id:
On Wed, 4 Oct 1995 ceylon@shadow.net wrote:
> ------------------------------------------Explanation-----------------------
> --------------
> When I asked:
> 3) Do any patrons of this list find the content of "From Dusk Till Dawn"
> > extremely insightful?
> >
> And then somebody answered:
> >No, but then again what are the problems in the world today? ;-)
>
> I realized how obtuse my question truly was. Perhaps I should be more
> specific: The question as I originally stated it, but in regards to the
> lyric it spawned.
> -----------------------------------------------------Question---------------
> ------------------------------------
> Part 2-- In the past MJ has worked with several prominent artists and
> musicians i.e. Marr, Pope, Christopherson (to mention but a few) etc. . . My
> question is--Who would you like to see Matt work with in the future?
>
> Perhaps, the aforementioned (by Matt) "Hymn album" could be co-produced
> (w/Lampcov of course, because his dark style is suited to hymns;+) by one
> of the Chieftians :)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------
> --------------------"THE UNIVERSE IS A CHICKEN"-------------------------
> M.K. O'Brien
> ===================================================
>
>
I've always wondered what a MJ/Morrissey collaboration would bring. Of
course, I don't see this ever happeneing as Moz would probably just want
to write lyrics, and the two have very different styles, but I still
would love to see what they'd come up with. I guess they'd write
something for "the lost, lonely, and suicidal."
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From: ceylon@shadow.net
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Marr v. Schemerhorn
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 23:55:07 -0400
Message-Id: <199510050355.XAA24461@shadow.net>
>Isn't Johnny Marr back with Matt Johnson ? Johnny is ready to join
>The The for the recording of the `Robert Johnson'-tribute album that
>Matt wants to record in New Orleans.
- -----Unless the lineup has changed, Eric S. is doing the guitar work on G.S.
I believe Matt stated that Johnny was tied up w/Electronic (what is it with
Marr anyways, first a kid, now another man:). However, if this info is dated
I'd love to hear the latest hack. I did'nt think the Marr/Johnson
seperation would last forever, even though Matt has described his
relationship with the other musicians as Employer/Employee.
Ian
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- --------------------"THE UNIVERSE IS A CHICKEN"-------------------------
M.K. O'Brien
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From: Behfar Bastani-Booshehri
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Marr v. Schemerhorn
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:54:54 -0500
Message-Id: <199510051854.NAA18549@gargoyle.cs.uchicago.edu>
ceylon@shadow.net writes:
> I did'nt think the Marr/Johnson seperation would last forever, even
> though Matt has described his relationship with the other musicians
> as Employer/Employee.
no offense, but am i the only one with the
impression of matt as a very talented, able,
and conceited/arrogant musician?
behfar
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From: Brandon K Snavely
To: Behfar Bastani-Booshehri
cc: infected@CS.UChicago.EDU
Subject: Re: Marr v. Schemerhorn
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 15:37:31 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
> > I did'nt think the Marr/Johnson seperation would last forever, even
> > though Matt has described his relationship with the other musicians
> > as Employer/Employee.
>
> no offense, but am i the only one with the
> impression of matt as a very talented, able,
> and conceited/arrogant musician?
Matt Johnson reminds me a bit of Roger Waters. For those of you who
aren't familiar w/ Roger Waters (used to be in Pink Floyd), he is a very
dominating, controlling artist. Throughout the seventies, he became more
and more controlling of Pink Floyd's direction and in the late 70s/early
80s, he started using Pink Floyd's fame and popularity as a vehicle to
convey his own political/social beliefs, even though the other members of
Pink Floyd (Gilmour, Mason, and Wright) did not necessarily hold these
very strong opinions (that Waters was putting forth in his lyrics).
Waters eventually left the band due to the growing tensions.
Anyway, sorry to ramble, but my point is that it seems like, when it
comes to THE THE, it's going to me "Matt's way" or "no way." (You go
along with what Matt says, or you hit the road). This is why I also
think that, although he's talented, he's also arrogant, conceited, and
quite dominating and inflexible when it comes to the musicians who work
with him on THE THE's albums.
Freeze
bksst6+@pitt.edu
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From: Craig Sefton
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Marr v. Schemerhorn
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:13:04 +0200 (SAT)
Message-Id: <199510060713.JAA19405@beastie.cs.und.ac.za>
Freeze wrote:
> Anyway, sorry to ramble, but my point is that it seems like, when it
> comes to THE THE, it's going to me "Matt's way" or "no way." (You go
> along with what Matt says, or you hit the road). This is why I also
> think that, although he's talented, he's also arrogant, conceited, and
> quite dominating and inflexible when it comes to the musicians who work
> with him on THE THE's albums.
Well I dunno really. IMHO the singer makes the band. This is true for almost
every band in existance. I feel he has every right to be that way since it
was his band to start with (when it was just him on his home). If the other
members don't like it, then tough - they shouldn't have joined the band.
They day MJ starts becoming dull and boring with his music, then maybe he
should start getting other people's input or, preferaly give up all
together.
Oh, just for an example, consider that man formaly known as Prince. Nothing
like MJ's singing style I know, but bare with me. A couple years ago, Prince
decided to start letting the New Power Generation start writing material
(songs and lyrics etc.) and those were IMHO *the worst* he has ever put out.
IMHO, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I can't see many people being able to
write songs or lyrics on a par with MJ.
Oh, and btw, I have been a lurker for some time waiting for a FAQ or
something. I finally decided to write. :)
- -Dazrin.
- --
##### ##### ##### ##### ###### ## ## "My daughter recently recieved a 2ft
#+#+#+ #+ +# #+ #+ #+ #+ #+# #+ Barney doll ... not to worry ... my
+# +# +#+#+ #+ +#+# +# +#+#+# brother and I took our SKS and Sig
:+:+:+ :+ +: :+ :+ +# :+ :+ +:+ p288 along with his friend's shotgun
::::: :: :: ::::: :: :: :::::: :: :: and laid extreme waste to that puke
sefton@beastie.cs.und.ac.za (Grunger) eyesore in no time flat." -- Anon
------------------------------
From: James Bykowy
To: Behfar Bastani-Booshehri
cc: infected@CS.UChicago.EDU
Subject: Re: Marr v. Schemerhorn
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 17:04:25 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
> no offense, but am i the only one with the
> impression of matt as a very talented, able,
> and conceited/arrogant musician?
Funny you should mention that, because I remember having a discussion
some other time with some The The fans scattered around the continent,
whether or not he would be absolutely evil in person. I was one of the
people who maintained the opinion that, since it's his anger more than
anything I appreciate in his music, it'd likely shine through in his
personal conversation, etc. If I ever saw him in concert and got a
chance to speak to him in person, I figured he'd be a right bastard.
However, another member of the discussion told me he did exactly that.
He had a license plate that said "The The". Johnson was apparently quite
touched at the gesture, and happily autographed it. Wow.
So I guess in response to the original question, yes I think he'd be
pretty nasty in person too, but hey, we may both be wrong.
James Bykowy (ab956)
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From: "Mr R. Forster"
To: ab956@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (James Bykowy)
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Marr v. Schemerhorn
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:02:22 +0100 (BST)
Message-Id: <199510100902.KAA08221@uxa.liv.ac.uk>
In the last mail James Bykowy said:
>
>
>
> > no offense, but am i the only one with the
> > impression of matt as a very talented, able,
> > and conceited/arrogant musician?
>
> Funny you should mention that, because I remember having a discussion
> some other time with some The The fans scattered around the continent,
> whether or not he would be absolutely evil in person. I was one of the
> people who maintained the opinion that, since it's his anger more than
> anything I appreciate in his music, it'd likely shine through in his
> personal conversation, etc. If I ever saw him in concert and got a
> chance to speak to him in person, I figured he'd be a right bastard.
>
> However, another member of the discussion told me he did exactly that.
> He had a license plate that said "The The". Johnson was apparently quite
> touched at the gesture, and happily autographed it. Wow.
>
> So I guess in response to the original question, yes I think he'd be
> pretty nasty in person too, but hey, we may both be wrong.
>
>
> James Bykowy (ab956)
>
>
I realise I may be a little late for the discussion, I met Matt, after
he appeared in Liverpool, I was a little stoned and the concert blew my
head clean off... when we met i did'nt know what to say.... we just stared
at each other for 2 minutes or so... and my friend thrust my cd into his
hands to sign... but he seemed chilled... so there
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From: Craig Sefton
To: infected@CS.UChicago.EDU
Subject: Re: Marr v. Schemerhorn
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:40:28 +0200 (SAT)
Message-Id: <199510060740.JAA19911@beastie.cs.und.ac.za>
I wrote:
> was his band to start with (when it was just him on his home). If the other
^^^^
Shit I've got to get more sleep. That was OWN not home. I don't know *what*
possessed me to write that *grin*
- -Dazrin.
- --
##### ##### ##### ##### ###### ## ## "My daughter recently recieved a 2ft
#+#+#+ #+ +# #+ #+ #+ #+ #+# #+ Barney doll ... not to worry ... my
+# +# +#+#+ #+ +#+# +# +#+#+# brother and I took our SKS and Sig
:+:+:+ :+ +: :+ :+ +# :+ :+ +:+ p288 along with his friend's shotgun
::::: :: :: ::::: :: :: :::::: :: :: and laid extreme waste to that puke
sefton@beastie.cs.und.ac.za (Grunger) eyesore in no time flat." -- Anon
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Marr v. Schemerhorn
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:55:44 -0400
Message-ID: <951005165217_117040720@mail04.mail.aol.com>
i really think the pink floyd comparison is way off, being that pink floyd
began as a collaboration and gradually moved into a one man domination. and
besides, they are god awful without waters. the the has always been a matt
johnson project. it is not like there is a core group of musicians from soul
mining to today, it is simply matt and whomever he chooses to work with.
this being the case, why should it make a difference if he is autocratic?
personally i hate it when i hear another's influence in the music, such as
beaten generation, which always sounded to me like lame watered down smiths.
and how can we assume he is such an autocrat anyway? does anyone think he
writes those amazing harmonica parts, only to hire some other guy to play
them? be realistic. he realizes his limitations and lets others finish it
for him.
by the way, matt has spoken for a few years about how he would like to write
an album of hymns, but who knows if that will ever happen or not. on the aol
chat he said this about it...
"Question: As a flute player of 13 yrs., I'm curious as to whether you have
any interest in
Question: integrating more typically-classical instruments into your music.
TheTheLive: I do have plans to write a classical/choral/hymnlike album
within
the next few years."
i happen to think that eric guy is pretty damn good on hanky panky. not so
caught uo in 1980's new wave like marr...
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From: Brandon K Snavely
To: ceylon@shadow.net
cc: infected@CS.UChicago.EDU
Subject: Re: Marr v. Schemerhorn
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 00:16:31 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
> -----Unless the lineup has changed, Eric S. is doing the guitar work on G.S.
> I believe Matt stated that Johnny was tied up w/Electronic (what is it with
> Marr anyways, first a kid, now another man:). However, if this info is dated
> I'd love to hear the latest hack. I did'nt think the Marr/Johnson
> seperation would last forever, even though Matt has described his
> relationship with the other musicians as Employer/Employee.
I was under the impression that Marr and Johnson have parted ways for
good. Marr is too good a guitarist to be "just an employee." Marr WAS
the Smiths. Listen to Morrissey's solo albums---they're witty and all,
but the musical complexity and ingenuity isn't there without Marr. I
sure hope GunSluts will sound ok; (I absolutely love Dusk). Exactly who
is this Eric Schemerhorn guy anyway? What bands has he played with?
Freeze
bksst6+@pitt.edu
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From: robbd@vyger.enet.dec.com
To: "infected@cs.uchicago.edu"@vboRMC.vbo.dec.com
Cc: robbd@vyger.enet.dec.com
Subject: From Dusk Till Dawn video
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 95 09:45:13 MET
Message-Id: <9510050826.AA02243@vbormc.vbo.dec.com>
I have to say that, much as I love most of Matt's music, this video is one
of the least-played in my whole collection. I remember seeing it advertised
just before Christmas two years ago, and subsequently dropping gentle hints
to my girlfriend about gift ideas. I was hoping it would be along the same
lines of _Infected_ but have to say that it gave me very little enjoyment
then, or now. In fact, when I think about it, I don't think I've watched it
right through any more than three times .. unlike _Infected_ which I watched
for the nth time just last week-end.
Anyone know of a decent source for good-quality copies of all the 'official'
videos for his singles (with the obvious exception)?
Cheers,
- - Dougie (in Scotland)
------------------------------
From: sswiedel@students.wisc.edu (Sean S. Wiedel)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 14:53:45 -0500
Message-Id: <199510051953.OAA49638@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
behfar writes:
no offense, but am i the only one with the
impression of matt as a very talented, able,
and conceited/arrogant musician?
behfar
i actually met matt at smart bar in chicago a couple years ago (i think it
was october 93). he had played at the world music theatre earlier that
night and i had just been at a show at the metro. i was just hanging out
and happened to look over at a nearby table and i thought i recognized matt.
i gushed like the typical fan. he was very gracious and i even have the
autograph to prove it.
i do agree that he's probably difficult to work with though.
sean
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:49:46 -0400
Message-Id: <199510100149.VAA24138@emout05.mail.aol.com>
y english winter and solitude is never easy to maintain, except
when it rains. So I hang any empty smile beneath my empty eyes and go out
for a walk.
The wet morning sun reflects off the paving stones, while a little dog barks
his head off...in the distance.
"Oh what a perfect day-to think about myself, my feet are firmly screwed to
the floor. What is there to fear from such a regular world."
Passing by a cemetary I think of all the little hopes and dreams that lie
lifeless and unfulfilled beneath the soil.
I see an old man fingering his perishing flesh he tells himself he was a good
man and did good things. Amused and confused by lifes little ironies he
swallows his bottle of distilled "Damnation."
People trot around with unseeing eyes, they're looking for something that
doesn't exist. The world we once knew is being eaten up by rust. No one has
time for the past but still in god they trust.
The future is now, but it's all going wrong. Bodies queue for nothing for it
is to nothing they belong.
People say their prayers and some work hard, if you give them all your money,
they'll give you their hearts.
(this town ain't gettin' like a ghost town)
It's gettin' like Hell!!!
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:36:18 -0400
Message-Id: <199510111136.HAA27531@emout05.mail.aol.com>
e of soul mining (lp) did not have perfect on it. this
was later added as a double lp, one lp being the perfect 12" (not 12"
version, that is something different--this is just a 12" with perfect on it,
and b-sides fruit of the heart and soup of mixed emotions). then finally it
was added on the american versions. all clear?
------------------------------
From: ceylon@shadow.net
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Marr gets slighted--I won't have it!
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 01:52:25 -0400
Message-Id: <199510060552.BAA23275@shadow.net>
Hirshdave wrote:
>...personally i hate it when i hear another's influence in the music, such as
>beaten generation, which always sounded to me like lame watered down smiths.
- ---Matt played the acoustic guitar part on Beaten, which is most frequently
associated Marr-esque writing. So perhaps, he is guilty of authoring the
atrocious piece of pop garbage himself. (:) I've always wondered what
"written by" meant anyway. I always imagined Matt sitting on a porch with
acoustic guitar in hand, sucking on iced tea from a pickeling jar, next to
an ashtray packed with sodden butts which inspire d.e.e.p. t.h.o.u.g.h.t.s.
I think i've hit the nail on the head this time--right right (;)
>...i happen to think that eric guy is pretty damn good on hanky panky. not so
>caught up in 1980's new wave like marr...
>
- ---Valid point, but lets wait for the album. To use a poor analogy: Freud's
Iceberg...playing the parts is but the tip. And also, Marr's contributions
extend way beyond the Smith-esque jangly bits: see "Gravitate." I think the
those tasty licks which make songs like "Jealous" and "Helpline" sound
nothing like the Smiths/new-wave. In fact, Matt and Johnny might have been
a team from the start, had the Smith's not come along (paraphrased from the
Mind Bomb tour book). Marr is funky nowadays.
- ---As for Behfar's re: to my original post: I was referring to Eric
Schmerhorn, not Eric Johnson---That would be like Morrissey making an album
with Canibal Corpse. (no offense to C.C. fans;)
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- --------------
- --------------------"THE UNIVERSE IS A CHICKEN"-------------------------
M.K. O'Brien
===================================================
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Fwd: unsubscribe please, i love you
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:22:59 -0400
Message-ID: <951008132258_118937621@mail06.mail.aol.com>
this showed up in my mail box for some reason...
- ---------------------
Forwarded message:
Subj: unsubscribe please, i love you
Date: 95-10-07 12:40:50 EDT
From: Enudely
To: Hirschdave
hey, sorry to say this, but could you unsubscribe me from the The? the mail
is too much and hectic, I'll be sure to keep up in the folder though!!
see you around cyberspace! - Enudely
------------------------------
From: "Corbett J. Klempay"
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: WWW site...
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 16:12:31 -0400
Message-id: <95Oct8.161235edt.26-1@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Is that wpi The The site still up? What's the address? I'm looking for all
The The web sites, other than the obvious Sony one.
-Corbett J. Klempay
The Johns Hopkins University
cklempay@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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From: 3dvideo@magi.com (Rob Ferguson)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: The 2 Puddings
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:11:50 -0400
Message-Id: <9510091511.AA22681@magi.com>
For all the world travelers:
Matt's parents pub is located outside of "greater London" in the
east end. Please do not send mail or phone this location, but if
you are visiting the city...
The 2 Puddings
27 Stratford Broadway
London, United Kingdom
E15
Phone: +44-181-534-2604
CHEERS!
------------------------------
From: djelline@haverford.edu (David M. Jellinek)
To: mfzx5mam@stud.man.ac.uk
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Thanks
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 95 14:43:39 EDT
Message-Id:
> Thanks so much for the detailed information on The 2 Puddings.
>I'm in Manchester and I hope to visit the place when I make it down
>to London.
Maybe someday...
> Just a question: Is there anyone out there that is getting
>anxious about Gun/Mine Sluts? I'm really curious to hear how much
>Matt has decided to change his sound. He has a tendency (as I'm sure
>you all know) to make each album sound unique, IMHO. That's it. Talk
>to you later.
I, too, am very curious...
Anyone? Seems to be very little information, and the Sony web site has not
changed really since last winter, and thethexxx virtually never replies...
So. Enough whining.
Dave
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The vice of our times indeed appears to be that nothing is so firm as that
it could not be uprooted, nothing so certain that it could not be disputed,
and nothing so sacred that it could not be violated."
Philippe Duplessis-Mornay, 1579
David Jellinek
djelline@haverford.edu
610-642-5511
------------------------------
From: "M.A.Moynier"
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Thanks
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:06:05 GMT0BST
Message-ID: <10EE7F873BE@fs1.art.man.ac.uk>
Thanks so much for the detailed information on The 2 Puddings.
I'm in Manchester and I hope to visit the place when I make it down
to London.
Just a question: Is there anyone out there that is getting
anxious about Gun/Mine Sluts? I'm really curious to hear how much
Matt has decided to change his sound. He has a tendency (as I'm sure
you all know) to make each album sound unique, IMHO. That's it. Talk
to you later.
Mark Moynier
****************************************
mfzx5mam@stud.man.ac.uk
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From: John Joseph Medway
To: infected@CS.UChicago.EDU
Subject: Soul Mining Lyrics
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 15:10:31 -0500 (CDT)
Message-Id: <199510092010.PAA19658@babyhuey.cs.utexas.edu>
Any clues as to where I can get my hands on the lyrics to the songs on
Soul Mining? That's my favorite disk, but it's of course the one which
came without any lyrics.
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
| jmedway@cs.utexas.edu | http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/jmedway |
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Sara Yaniv
To: infected@CS.UChicago.EDU
Subject: RE: Soul Mining Lyrics
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 07:22:34 0300
Message-Id: <199510110525.HAA05412@post.tau.ac.il>
I have Soul Mining on CD (cover sleeve is the woman smoking).
It has all lyrics INCLUDING Perfect. Are you sure you don't have "Perfect"
on your CD/LP ?
btw, the CD # is 466337-2.
Ran.
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From: Doug Chase (Volt Computer)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Cc: jmedway@cs.utexas.edu
Subject: RE: Soul Mining Lyrics
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 95 14:30:36 PDT
Message-Id: <9510092259.AA22909@netmail2.microsoft.com>
- ----------
>From: John Joseph Medway
>Any clues as to where I can get my hands on the lyrics to the songs on
>Soul Mining? That's my favorite disk, but it's of course the one which
>came without any lyrics.
I've got an original release of Soul Mining on vinyl (with the girl
smoking a cigarette on the cover) and it has the lyrics printed on the
record sleeve. If there's anything in particular that you'd like to
know, I can type some in for you. It doesn't have Perfect on it though.
I seem to remember that Behfar's page had some lyrics on it, but it's
been quite a while since I've checked it out and I've lost the address.
You might want to check there.
Doug
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From: Behfar Bastani-Booshehri
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: Soul Mining Lyrics
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:29:41 -0500
Message-Id: <199510100029.TAA25599@gargoyle.cs.uchicago.edu>
Doug Chase writes:
> I seem to remember that Behfar's page had some lyrics on it, but it's
> been quite a while since I've checked it out and I've lost the address.
> You might want to check there.
it must've been benjamin's homepage (thethe@wpi) since
i don't have one...
the address: http://www.wpi.edu/~thethe/thethe/thethe.html
on the topic of homepages, i'm going to set up one soon
and plan to make a the The/infected page as well.
if anybody has anything they'd like to see on a homepage
but don't have a homepage of their own please let me know
and i'll put it up (eg lyrics, concert info, FAQ,
non-the The, etc etc..). i'll also put the old digests there.
if anyone has any ideas/suggestions/requests/etc please let
me know.
behfar
------------------------------
From: Smiley Boy
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: Soul Mining Lyrics
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:19:40 -0600 (MDT)
Message-Id:
On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Doug Chase wrote:
> ----------
> >From: John Joseph Medway
>
> >Any clues as to where I can get my hands on the lyrics to the songs on
> >Soul Mining? That's my favorite disk, but it's of course the one which
> >came without any lyrics.
>
> I've got an original release of Soul Mining on vinyl (with the girl
> smoking a cigarette on the cover) and it has the lyrics printed on the
> record sleeve. If there's anything in particular that you'd like to
> know, I can type some in for you. It doesn't have Perfect on it though.
>
> Doug
I've got the original release on CD (I managed to stumble across it in a
used record shop, of all places). Just in case you were wanting to
purchase it, the catalog number of that CD is WEK-90699. The CD, like
the vinyl has all the lyrics except Perfect ... pitty! Hope you find
what you're looking for.
-S.B. :)
P.S. Kudos to Hirschdave for going through all the work of putting the
lyrics on this list :)
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: by the way
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:05:26 -0400
Message-ID: <951009210510_40396031@mail04.mail.aol.com>
i have a printout of the soul mining lyrics, but aol has been kind of goofy
tonight. i will post them to this list real soon so people can stop asking
for them...
------------------------------
From: "Mr R. Forster"
To: Hirschdave@aol.com
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Soul Mining
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:09:18 +0100 (BST)
Message-Id: <199510100909.KAA10055@uxa.liv.ac.uk>
In the last mail Hirschdave@aol.com said:
>
> i have a printout of the soul mining lyrics, but aol has been kind of goofy
> tonight. i will post them to this list real soon so people can stop asking
> for them...
>
firstly well done that man for having the patience to reprint all those
lyrics, luckily I too have the original lp of soul mining... just as
a suggestion, i thought it may be a damn decent idea, if seeing that this
is a thethe discussion group, that the lyrics are discussed, in detail....
i would like to hear other peoples interpretations of the soul mining
experience.... but on the other ignore this as usual and talk about rarities
bye for now your infected english cousin bob....
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: soul mining lyrics 1
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:17:35 -0400
Message-ID: <951009211701_40407802@mail06.mail.aol.com>
here you go. these match the lyrics on the lp of soul mining. i broke it
into 3 because aol has been giving me trouble tonight...
I've Been Waitin' for Tomorrow (All of My Life)
I'm hiding in the corner, of an overgrown garden-
Covering my body in leaves-and trying not to breath-
All my childhood dreams are bursting at the seams and dangling around my
knees.
I've been stripped bare and nobody cares-and all the people I looked up to
- -are no longer there.
"All desires have been denied to put me in this state of mind, Another year
older and what have I done-All my aspirations have shrivelled in the sun.
I'm crippled by guilt, blinded by science, I've been waiting for tomorrow
all of my life."
I've been filled with useless information-spewed out by papers and radion
station-
I've been hounded by fairweather 'friends' sewing the sees for my discontent.
Life is like a sewer-and I'm trying to wade thru HER-
I threw in my money and made my wish, but sleeping boys catch 'no fish'.
My mind has been poluted and my energy diluted. My mind had been poluted!!!
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: soul mining lyrics 2
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:23:12 -0400
Message-ID: <951009212311_120016655@mail06.mail.aol.com>
This is the Day!
Well...you didn't wake up this morning because you didn't go to bed. You
were watching the whites of your eyes turn red!
The calender on the wall is ticking the days off. You've been reading some
old letters, you smile think how much you've changed. All the money in the
world couldn't buy back those days.
You pull back your curtains and the sun burns into your eyes, you watch a
plane flying across a clear blue sky.
This is the day-your life will surely change.
This is the day-when things fall into place.
You could've done anything-if you'd wanted
and all your friends and family think that your lucky. But the side of you
they'll never see is when your left alone with your memories that hold your
life, together like glue.
The Sinking Feeling
All my books lay on the table, waiting to unfold. I sit and stare at my
reflection, while the darkness chills my bones. My head fills like a junk
shop, indesperate need of repair.
The path of least resistance leads to the garbage heap of despair. (I think
I'd better get back in bed!!)
"I'm just a symptom of the moral decay thats gnawing at the heart of the
county."
You can't destroy your problems by destroying yourself. Death is not the
answer for your sould may burn in hell. My memory my fond deceiver-is
turning all my past into pain.
While I'm being raped by progress, tomorrows world is here to stay.
(I wouldn't have it any other way.)
------------------------------
From: "Woltjer, Wendy - Canton"
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: hopeful
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:04:05 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
has anyone heard whether mj will be touring again soon? did he do
anything with hanky panky or has he just been lying low?
wendy
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From: Genepool@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: hopeful
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:20:44 -0400
Message-ID: <951012002044_42469075@emout06.mail.aol.com>
The The did not tour the US for H.P.
Hopefully we'll see them as soon as the next album comes out. I don't think
the album did as well as expected. I see a lot of copies in used bins etc.
Steve
genepool is the name of our band: We will be performing at CBGB's, NYC on
Tuesday, October 23rd at 7:00 PM
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From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: soul mining lyrics 3
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:25:54 -0400
Message-ID: <951009212554_120019011@mail06.mail.aol.com>
i had to break it into more than 3, i am sorry for clogging your mail boxes,
but aol is a piece of shit right now...
Uncertain Smile
Peeling the skin back from my eyes, I felt surprised that the time on the
clock was the time I usually retired. To the place where I cleared my head
of you, but just for today....I think I'll lie here and dream of you.
"I've got you under my skin where the rain can't get in, but if the sweat
pours out-just shout-I'll try to swim and pull you out."
A howling wind that blows the litter as the rain flows-as street lamps pour
orange coloured shapes thru your windows. A broken soul stares from a pair
of watering eyes. Uncertain emotions force an uncertain smile.
The Twilight Hour
Your lying on your bed, and making shadows on the wall. It's almost too hot
to move-
Outside your window, people are driving home from work for the weekend. But
you're waiting for the phone to ring, you're gonna tell her exactly what you
think.
You practice getting yout mouth around the words that explain the way you
feel. You've been scared to show your real self, incase she doesn't like
what she sees.
You've been a "Prostitute to Humility"-she's invaded your life and you've got
to live apart, in order to survive.
You were emotionally independent, but starved of affection.
But now you've been trapped by tenderness, and been beaten into
"submission..."
It's now way past the hour she usually phones, and you've decided not to tell
her your little joke.
Where could she have got to. Why is she torturing you.
You roll on your side, and run your fingers thru your hair. You're scared of
losing her, and facing yourself.
A red sky at night may be a shepards delight, but you're cutting chunks from
you're heart, and rubbing the meat into your eyes. She can't leave you
now-you've given up all your friends, You're relying on her-for your
independence. She can't leave you here, alone and defenceless.
You're relying on her for your independence. You're relying on her....
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From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: soul mining lyrics 4
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:41:41 -0400
Message-ID: <951009214139_72487196@mail06.mail.aol.com>
Soul Mining
You're floating down a tunnel in a little wooden box. You're scared and
you're lonely and enveloped in fog.
You've been prized open and left here to die. You should have trusted your
instincts, because they don't tell lies.
"Something always goes wrong when things are going right. You've swallowed
your pride to quell the pain inside. Someone captured your hear like a thief
in the night, and squeezed all the juice out until it ran dry"
You've been read like an open book, page by page. You'll never tell anyone
your inner thoughts again. You've were taken in by a heart of fools gold-now
you're drifting in circles in the depths of your soul!!
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From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: soul mining lyrics 5
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:41:59 -0400
Message-ID: <951009214157_72487294@mail06.mail.aol.com>
Giant
The sun is high and I'm surrounded by sand. I'm strapped into a rocking
chair, with a blanket over my knees. 'I' am a stranger to myself, and nobody
knows 'I'm' here. When I looked into my eyes, it wasn't myself I'd seen, but
who I've tried to be.
I'm thinking of things I'd hoped to forget. I'm choking to death in a sun
that never sets. I clogged up my mind with perpetual greed, and turned all
of my 'friends' into enemies. And now the past has returned to haunt me.
I'm scared of god and scared of hell and caving in upon myself. How can
anyone know me, when I don't even know myself...
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From: 29DELCHER@CUA.EDU
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Stuff
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:29:37 -0400 (EDT)
Message-id: <01HWBLT5QDDE8WWJKL@CU4700.CUA.EDU>
I have said this before but if anyone is interested in exchanging
THE THE stuff then e-mail me at: 29delcher@cua.edu.
Lately I have picked up a few more items to add to my collection. If
you respond I shall tell you the story of when I met MATT Johnson in NYC.
thanks
d.d.
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From: 29DELCHER@CUA.EDU
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Discography
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:38:37 -0400 (EDT)
Message-id: <01HWBM3UFJVM8WWJKL@CU4700.CUA.EDU>
Okay here it is again, a request for a THE THE discography. For some
reason the computers here at my school will not allow me to print out the info.
Someone sent me a coded version I think but I dont know how to read it. Could
someone send me, in the mail, a copy of the discography please.
I am desparate. Whoever sends me one I will reward them kindly.
My address is:
Dave
1214 Michigan Avenue,NE
Washington, D.C. 20017
thanks
dave
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From: Joonas Virtasalo
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: James Eller
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:04:55 +0300
Message-Id: <199511160705.JAA19216@jazz>
There has been a lot of discussion about Johnny Marr playing on the The
album 'Dusk'. I still like James Eller more in bass than Marr in guitar.
Marr was great, but still...
Does anyone know what Eller did before 'Dusk'? Or what is he doing right now?
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Joonas Virtasalo, Satakunta Polytechnic, ADP-Department ! !
joonas@jazz.cc.spt.fi, http://www.spt.fi/~joonas ! !
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: what stanley saw...
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 21:33:40 -0400
Message-ID: <951017213340_126490017@emout05.mail.aol.com>
oh, excited me...
today i found a wonderful old matt johnson track, called "what stanley saw."
some of you have a copy of this off a cassette copy i had, but now i've got
the real thing. this comes from the cherry red records compilation called
"perspectives and distortion," from 1981. this track is solo matt, recorded
in spring 1980. to put that into perspective, this would be after the first
gadgets album, but before burning blue soul and before even the controversial
subject/black and white single. and over a year before cold spell ahead. so
this makes it one of the earliest solo matt songs, if not the earliest. and
it is pretty damn good. happy hunting...
and go see the geraldine fibbers if you get a chance. best album of the
year, and great live...
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From: "Mark Lane Ritter"
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: weird the the song....
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:48:54 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <199510180248.WAA05538@pilot04.cl.msu.edu>
Hey everyone...
I bought this the the compliation tape a while back that has rare tracks on it
and there is this one song on the tape titled "The The". I t goes something
like this....... " all this and more.....all this and the moores murders"
and something like someone "got their head screwed on tight" I was wondering
if this was a gadgets tune or a mj solo release song.....anyone know?????
--
- ------------------------------------------------------------
I "Don't look back cuz tomorrow finds you older than today I
I Don't look back don't let one more minute slip away..." I
I -Alex Lumelsky I
I I
I Mark Ritter I
I ritterma@pilot.msu.edu I
- ------------------------------------------------------------
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From: djelline@haverford.edu (Jellinek David M)
To: ritterma@pilot.msu.edu (Mark Lane Ritter)
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: weird the the song....
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:20:40 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <9510181415.AA04424@acc.haverford.edu>
>
> Hey everyone...
>
> I bought this the the compliation tape a while back that has rare tracks on it
> and there is this one song on the tape titled "The The". I t goes something
> like this....... " all this and more.....all this and the moores murders"
> and something like someone "got their head screwed on tight" I was wondering
> if this was a gadgets tune or a mj solo release song.....anyone know?????
I think you stumbled across a tape dub of the Some Bizarre sampler
recording by MJ done in (correct me if I'm wrong) 1980 or 1981. Its
untitled, and thats why its referred to as the the. I have the
collection on CD. Wierd song, agreed...
Dave
PS I own a T-shirt bought during the Dusk tour (soul mining cover) and
wear it rountinely...
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From: ceylon@shadow.net
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Spotted a lurker/heavy topic
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 01:56:34 -0400
Message-Id: <199510180556.BAA14960@shadow.net>
Salutations,
I had the priviledge of spotting an individual decorated in a theThe t-shirt
this afternoon. Is it me, or is there is distinct lack of theThe fans
(read:T-shirt wearing) out there? I can honestly say that, I've seen but
two other theThe shirts in my lifetime. Do I need to spend more time at the
disco lounges or what? My point is this: Has anybody met a theThe
appreciator and formed a decent relationship...friendly or otherwise?
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:::::::::::::::::Fred Garvin--Proffessional
Test-Pilot::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
::::::::::::::::::::
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Riding Lawnmower
Industry::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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From: psj@re.dk
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: T-shirts
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:47:32 +0200
Message-Id: <199510180943.AA21582@ic1.ic.dk>
Fred Garvin wrote:
******
I had the priviledge of spotting an individual decorated in a theThe t-shir=
t
this afternoon. Is it me, or is there is distinct lack of theThe fans
(read:T-shirt wearing) out there? I can honestly say that, I've seen but
two other theThe shirts in my lifetime. Do I need to spend more time at the
disco lounges or what? My point is this: Has anybody met a theThe
appreciator and formed a decent relationship...friendly or otherwise?
******
I don't imagine there is a shortage of the The fans out there, it's just=20
that most of them probably recognize the wearing of band T-shirts for what=20
it is: a rather cheesy idea, designed to line the pockets of businessmen wh=
o=20
are out to make as much money as possible out of the band. I'm sure the ban=
d=20
members don't give a toss whether you wear their T-shirt or not. Most the=20
The fans have a bit more style and leave tour T-shirts etc. to the Bon Jov=
i=20
fans. Sorry.
And yes, some of my friends are into the The. But they didn't have the The=20
T-shirts on when I met them - if that's what you're driving at.
Paul
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From: ceylon@shadow.net
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: T-shirts
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:10:39 -0400
Message-Id: <199510201810.OAA09666@shadow.net>
Paul wrote:
>******
>I don't imagine there is a shortage of the The fans out there, it's just
>that most of them probably recognize the wearing of band T-shirts for what
>it is: a rather cheesy idea, designed to line the pockets of businessmen who
>are out to make as much money as possible out of the band.
##### I could be mistaken here, but the t-shirt sales profit the band more
so than the record company. As for the images depicted on theThe tour
shirts: most of them are Andy's creations, therefore he makes a bit of
change himself (I can deal w/that). If you're so concerned with lining the
pockets of "the Man", you would be well advised to never buy anything again.
Especially considering how little Matt makes off of each release
(notwithstanding his contractual fee...about a buck or two for each unit sold).
> I'm sure the band members don't give a toss whether you wear their T-shirt
or not.
####The same could be said for whether we live or die, so what keeps us
alive. I'm not trying to impress Matt.
>Most the The fans have a bit more style and leave tour T-shirts etc. to
the Bon Jovi
>fans. Sorry.
>Paul
####Judging by the responses that followed my original post, I'd say your
re: offended a few of us stylistically-challenged members. And, I've never
seen artwork on a B.Jovi tour shirt. I might line the litterbox with his
shirt, but my theThe shirt is damn-near hand washed, never seen a fucking dryer.
Ian
P.s.--Say hi to Biff and Buffy at the Contry club--for me.):-0
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Fred Garvin, Male
model,::::::::::::::::
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Astrophysicist and spokeswoman
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::for the
NRA::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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From: Steven W Hill
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: DISCOGRAPHY New Version
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 3:53:46 CDT
Message-Id: <9510180845.AA21362@harper.cc.il.us>
As promised, the long-delayed discography version 1.4. Enjoy.
- ---------------------------------------------------------
The The - Discography v1.4 (13 October 1995)
Send all corrections/additions/comments to
shill@harper.cc.il.us (Steve Hill)
Catalog numbers and comments refer primarily
to UK releases except where noted.
============================================
SINGLES
4AD Records
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AD 10 Controversial Subject
Black and White 7" (8/80)
Some Bizzarre Records
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BZS4 Cold Spell Ahead
Hot Ice 7" (9/81)
Epic Records
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EPC A2787 Uncertain Smile
Three Orange Kisses From Kazan 7" (10/82)
EPC 132787 Uncertain Smile
Three Orange Kisses From Kazan
Waiting for the Upturn 12" (yellow vinyl) (10/82)
EPC 132787 Uncertain Smile
Three Orange Kisses From Kazan
Waiting for the Upturn 12" (10/82)
EPC A3119 Perfect
Nature of Virtue 7" (2/83)
EPC A13 3119 Perfect
Nature of Virtue 12" (2/83)
Epic A3710 This is the Day
Mental Healing Process 7" (9/83)
Epic A3710 This is the Day
Mental Healing Process
Absolute Liberation
Leap Into the Wind 2x7" gatefold (9/83)
Epic TA3710 This is the Day
I've Been Waiting For Tomorrow (All of My Life) 12" (9/83)
Melody Maker Dumb as Death's Head flexi (9/83)
Epic A3588 Uncertain Smile
Dumb as Death's Head 7" (11/83)
Epic TA3588 Uncertain Smile
Soul Mining 12" (11/83)
TRUTH 1 Sweet Bird of Truth
Harbour Lights
Sleeping Juice 12" limited edition of 7500 (5/86)
TRUTH 2 Heartland
Born in the New S.A. 7" (7/86)
TRUTH T2 Heartland
Born in the New S.A.
Flesh and Bones 12" (7/86)
TRUTH Q2 Heartland
Born in the New S.A.
Sweet Bird of Truth 12" (8/86)
TRUTH C2 Heartland
Born in the New S.A.
Sweet Bird of Truth
Harbour Lights cassette (8/86)
TRUTH D2 Heartland
Born in the New S.A.
Flesh and Bones
Perfect
Fruit of the Heart 2x12" (9/86)
TRUTH 3 Infected
Disturbed 12" (10/86)
TRUTH T3 Infected (Energy Mix)
Disturbed 12" (10/86)
TRUTH Q3 Infected (Energy Mix)
Disturbed 12" uncensored picture sleeve (10/86)
TRUTH C3 Infected (Skull Crusher Mix)
Disturbed
Soul Mining
The Sinking Feeling
Infected cassette (11/86)
TRUTH D3 Infected
Infected (Energy Mix)
Disturbed
Soul Mining (Remix)
The Sinking Feeling (Original Version) 2x12" (11/86)
TENSE 1 Slow Train to Dawn
Harbour Lights 7" w/stickers (1/87)
TENSE T1 Slow Train to Dawn
Harbour Lights
Nature of Virtue 12" (1/87)
TENSE D1 Slow Train to Dawn
Harbour Lights
Nature of Virtue 12" w/stencil (1/87)
TENSE 2 Sweet Bird of Truth
Sleeping Juice 7" (5/87)
TENSE T2 Sweet Bird of Truth
Harbour Lights
Sleeping Juice 12" (5/87)
TENSE C2 Sweet Bird of Truth
Harbour Lights
Sleeping Juice
Soul Mining
Sweet Bird of Truth (7" Mix) cassette (5/87)
CD THE 2 Sweet Bird of Truth
Harbour Lights
Sleeping Juice
Soul Mining (Previously Unreleased Mix) 5" CD (5/87)
EMU 8 The Beat(en) Generation
Angel 7" (3/89)
EMUB 8 The Beat(en) Generation
Angel
Soul Mining 12" box w/poster, pin, postcards (3/89)
CBEMU 8 The Beat(en) Generation
Angel
Soul Mining 3" CD box set w/'poster' (3/89)
EMU CD 8 The Beat(en) Generation
Angel
Soul Mining 5" CD (4/89)
EMUT 8 The Beat(en) Generation (7" Mix)
The Beat(en) Generation (Palmer Mix)
The Beat(en) Generation (Campfire Mix)
Angel 12" (4/89)
CPEMU 8 The Beat(en) Generation (7" Mix)
The Beat(en) Generation (Palmer Mix)
The Beat(en) Generation (Campfire Mix)
Angel 5" picture CD (4/89)
EMU 9 Gravitate to Me
The Violence of Truth 7" (7/89)
EMUT 9 Gravitate to Me
The Violence of Truth
I've Been Waiting For Tomorrow (All of My Life) 12" (7/89)
CDEMU 9 Gravitate to Me
The Violence of Truth
I've Been Waiting For Tomorrow (All of My Life) 5" CD (7/89)
EMU E9 Gravitate to Me (Dub)
I've Been Waiting For Tomorrow (All of My Life) 12" etched (8/89)
EMU B9 Gravitate to Me (Dub)
I've Been Waiting For Tomorrow (All of My Life) 12" box (8/89)
EMU 10 Armageddon Days Are Here (Radio)
Armageddon Days Are Here (Orchestral) 7" (11/89)
EMU T10 Armageddon Days Are Here
Perfect
Mental Healing Process
Armageddon Days Are Here (Radio) 12" (11/89)
EMU QT10 Armageddon Days Are Here
Nature of Virtue
Mental Healing Process
Perfect 10" (11/89)
CD EMU10 Armageddon Days Are Here (Radio)
Perfect
Mental Healing Process
Armageddon Days Are Here (Orchestral) 5" CD (11/89)
EMU C10 Armageddon Days Are Here
Nature of Virtue
Mental Healing Process
Perfect 5" picture CD (11/89)
EMU E10 Armageddon Days Are Here (Radio)
Perfect 12" etched (11/89)
???? Armageddon
Violence 12" (?/90) **
** plain white label, these are DNA remixes of Armageddon
Days Are Here and Violence of Truth. The Armageddon
remix was later put on the limited edition Dogs of Lust
CD single (part 2).
SBZX016 Cold Spell Ahead
Hot Ice 12" picture disc (10/92) (re-release of 1981 single)
SBZCD016 Cold Spell Ahead
Hot Ice 5" CD (10/92)
658457-7 Dogs of Lust
Violence of Truth (Remix) 7" colored vinyl (1/93)
658457-6 Dogs of Lust
Violence of Truth (Remix)
Infected (Live) 12" picture disc (1/93)
658457-2 Dogs of Lust
Violence of Truth (Remix)
Infected (Live) 5" CD (1/93) ** Part 1 of 2
658457-5 Dogs of Lust
Jealous of Youth (Live)
Armageddon Days Are Here (DNA Remix)
Beyond Love (Live) 5" CD (1/93) ** Part 2 of 2
** both CDs sold separately, part 1 is in a double-pak
jewel box to hold both, and is numbered. Part 2 is
in its own (redundant) jewel box.
659077-2 Slow Emotion Replay
Dogs of Lust (Spermicide Mix)
Dogs of Lust (Germicide Mix)
Dogs of Lust (Squirmicide Mix) 5" CD (4/93) ** Part 1 of 2
659077-5 Slow Emotion Replay
Scenes From Arctic Twilight i-v 5" CD (4/93) ** Part 2 of 2
** both CDs sold separately, part 1 is in a double-pak
jewel box to hold both, and is numbered. Part 2 is
in its own (redundant) jewel box.
659371-6 Love Is Stronger Than Death
The Sinking Feeling (Live)
The Mercy Beat (Live)
Armageddon Days Are Here (Again) (Live) 12" (6/93)
661901-0 I Saw the Light
(written by Hank Williams Sr)
I'm Free At Last
(written by Lewis G Candys)
Someday You'll Call My Name
(written by Eddie Hill/Jean Branch)
There's No Room in My Heart For the Blues
(written by Fred Rose/Zeb Turner) 10" (/95)
661901-2 I Saw the Light
(written by Hank Williams Sr)
I'm Free At Last
(written by Lewis G Candys)
Someday You'll Call My Name
(written by Eddie Hill/Jean Branch)
There's No Room in My Heart For the Blues
(written by Fred Rose/Zeb Turner) 5" CD (/95)
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ALBUMS
Epic 25525 SOUL MINING (10/83)
1 I've Been Waiting For Tomorrow (All of My Life)
2 This Is the Day
3 The Sinking Feeling
4 Uncertain Smile
5 The Twilight Hour
6 Soul Mining
7 GIANT
initial copies with 12": Perfect
Soup of Mixed Emotions
Fruit of the Heart
UK cassette copies with 6 extra tracks
US cassette copies with 2 remixes (Epic FET39266)
CD copies with 1 extra track (6/87) ("Perfect")
Epic 26770 INFECTED (11/86)
1 Infected
2 Out of the Blue
3 Heartland
4 Angels of Deception
5 Sweet Bird of Truth
6 Slow Train to Dawn
7 Twilight of a Champion
8 The Mercy Beat
first 25000 copies with "torture" sleeve and poster
UK CD copies with 3 12" remix tracks (5/87)
Epic 463319 MIND BOMB (5/89)
1 Good Morning Beautiful
2 Armageddon Days Are Here (again)
3 The Violence of Truth
4 Kingdom of Rain
5 The Beat(en) Generation
6 August & September
7 Gravitate to Me
8 Beyond Love
initial copies with poster
Epic 655796 SHADES OF BLUE (EP) (2/91)
1 Jealous of Youth
2 Another Boy Drowning (Live)
3 Solitude (written by De Lange/Mills/Ellington)
4 Dolphins (written by Fred Neil)
Epic 53164 DUSK (2/93)
1 True Happiness This Way Lies
2 Love is Stronger Than Death
3 Dogs of Lust
4 This Is the Night
5 Slow Emotion Replay
6 Helpline Operator
7 Sodium Light Baby
8 Lung Shadows
9 Bluer Than Midnight
10 Lonely Planet.
659811 DIS-INFECTED (EP) (/93)
1 That Was The Day
2 Dis-Infected
3 Helpline Operator (sick boy mix)
4 Dogs of Lust (germicide mix)
Epic BK66908 HANKY PANKY (/95) all songs by Hank Williams Sr
1 Honky Tonkin'
2 Six More Miles
3 My Heart Would Know
4 If You'll Be A Baby To Me
5 I'm A Long Gone Daddy
6 Weary Blues From Waitin'
7 I Saw The Light
8 Your Cheatin' Heart
9 I Can't Get You Off Of My Mind
10 There's A Tear In My Beer
11 I Can't Escape From You
also available on 2x10" vinyl Epic 478139-0
Also:
4AD CAD113 BURNING BLUE SOUL (by Matt Johnson) (8/81)
4AD CAD113 BURNING BLUE SOUL (new cover art) (9/83)
9 45266-2 BURNING BLUE SOUL (US CD re-release) (6/93)*
* This is the first CD release of BURNING BLUE SOUL.
All new cover art (3rd), and issued under "The The"
instead of "Matt Johnson"
1 Red Cinders in the Sand
2 Song Without an Ending
3 Time Again for the Golden Sunset
4 Icing Up
5 Like a Sun Risin Thru My Garden
6 Out Of Control
7 Bugle Boy
8 Delirious
9 The River Flows East In Spring
10 Another Boy Drowning
PORNOGRAPHY OF DESPAIR
* As far as I know, this absolutely does not exist beyond
personal cassette copies distributed by Matt Johnson
himself. There still has been no definite track listing
from anyone. An educated guess can be made at the track
listing, though, as Matt Johnson has stated before that
many of the songs ended up as B-sides. Here's the guess:
1 The Nature of Virtue
2 Leap Into the Wind
3 Dumb as Death's Head
4 Mental Healing Process (For a Mixed Up Kid)
5 Absolute Liberation 1
6 Absolute Liberation 2
7 Uncertain Smile
8 Perfect
9 Three Orange Kisses From Kazan *
10 Waiting for the Upturn *
11 Fruit of the Heart *
12 Soup of Mixed Emotions *
* these tracks less likely to be part of POD
DEMO SEX WITHOUT BEING SEEN
* Matt's demo tape circa 1978/79. No, I don't have a copy.
Track titles from the INFECTED book.
1 Troops
2 Homa's Coma
3 Planetarium
4 Spaceship in My Barn
5 Insect Children
6 My Vymura
7 Windowledge
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HOME VIDEOTAPES AND LASERDISCS
The The vs. the World (Live) UK video (PAL format) or Japan video (NTSC)
Released 1991 (UK and Japan) and 1992 (US)
The The - Infected: The Movie (US-NTSC and UK-PAL)
Released 1987 (UK) and 1989 (US)
US release on VHS video and Laserdisc (Image ID6965CB) through CMV
======================================
MULTIMEDIA
"I Saw The Light" Music Screener (550 Music/Epic BSS 61119)
It's a 3.5" diskette with screen saver based around the video.
List price is around US$10-$11
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MUSIC VIDEOS
This is the Day
I've Been Waiting For Tomorrow (All Of My Life)
Infected
Out of the Blue (Into the Fire)
Heartland
Angels of Deception
Sweet Bird of Truth
Slow Train to Dawn
Twilight of a Champion
The Mercy Beat
The Beat(en) Generation
Gravitate to Me
Kingdom of Rain
Jealous of Youth [LIVE]
Dogs of Lust
Dogs of Lust (Sexy 12" version) (contains nudity)
Slow Emotion Replay
Love Is Stronger Than Death
I Saw The Light
======================================
There are various US releases and lots of promo things.
Some things that I know of are:
I Saw The Light promo US CD 5" Epic BSK6743
Love Is Stronger Than Death promo US CD 5" Epic ESK5108
Dogs of Lust US promo 12" (plain sleeve w/sticker, Epic EAS 4836)
contains three remixes: Spermicide / Germicide / Squirmicide
Kingdom of Rain UK promo 12" (red cover)
Kingdom of Rain UK promo 12" (plain sleeve)
Jealous of Youth US CD single (Epic 49K 73151)
The The vs. the World US CD promo compilation (11 tracks Epic ESK 1958)
The The Alive "Interchords" US CD promo interview/music:
8 interview tracks
2 studio tracks (Kingdom of Rain/This Is the Day)
4 live tracks (Beaten Generation/Heartland/Infected/Beyond Love)
Mind Bomb promo CD with 1:1 scale plastic brain!
Flesh and Bones UK promo 7" (one sided radio promo)
The Beat(en) Generation German 3" CD single
The The - Infected (songbook with some band history)
Infected/Soul Mining double CD release (Japan)
The The vs. the World tour program
=============================================
Other fun stuff:
"For on-line users The The can be reached at THETHEXXX@AOL.COM"
The The, 6010-901 Sherman Oaks, 91403, California, USA
I also have two cover versions of "Uncertain Smile":
by Poesie Noire ("Oblivion" CD EP)
by Pierce Turner ("It's Only a Long Way Across" LP)
Help keep the discography accurate. Email me corrections and any
promo items you might have that are not on the list.
shill@harper.cc.il.us
- --
[][] [][] Steve Hill, Network Communications Specialist, 708-925-6273
[] [] [] Harper College, 1200 W Algonquin Rd, Palatine IL 60067-7398
----shill@harper.cc.il.us----http://www.harper.cc.il.us----
[] [] [] "Mostly harmless."
[][] [][] personal:(http://www.idis.com/shill/index.htm)
------------------------------
From: James Bykowy
To: Steven W Hill
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: DISCOGRAPHY New Version
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 02:16:53 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
I have what a remix album that I didn't see in the discography.
Solitude. It's dated 1993. When I saw it in the record store it was
right in front of Dis-Infected, and I chose Solitude because it had more
tracks:
That Was the Day
Dis-Infected
Jealous of Youth
The Violence of Truth (remix)
Helpline Operator (sick boy mix)
Another Boy Drowning (live)
Solitude
Dolphins
Dogs of Lust (germicide mix)
------------------------------
From: James Bykowy
To: Steven W Hill
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: DISCOGRAPHY New Version
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 02:16:53 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
I have what a remix album that I didn't see in the discography.
Solitude. It's dated 1993. When I saw it in the record store it was
right in front of Dis-Infected, and I chose Solitude because it had more
tracks:
That Was the Day
Dis-Infected
Jealous of Youth
The Violence of Truth (remix)
Helpline Operator (sick boy mix)
Another Boy Drowning (live)
Solitude
Dolphins
Dogs of Lust (germicide mix)
------------------------------
From: James Bykowy
To: Steven W Hill
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: DISCOGRAPHY New Version
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 02:27:57 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
Sorry to be rambling on in little bits and pieces here, but I just
remembered another item I have that I didn't see mentioned in the
discography. It's a single called "Lip Tripping". It's an instrumental
that appears on the compilation album "Volume 6". The whole "Volume"
series consists of sampler CDs with a huge 100+ page book of liner notes,
mostly featuring UK artists. I don't have much else for info because my
copy is currently on loan to a friend of mine, which one, I can't
remember. That's bad.
The single is slow and blue. As mentioned before, it's an instrumental
but the actual track contains a small 30 second monologue of Johnson
describing the song and where it came from. He says he has a pile of
half-developed ideas, some of which he completes into songs, others he
abandons. Lip Tripping is in the middle.
James Bykowy (ab956)
------------------------------
From: James Bykowy
To: Steven W Hill
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: DISCOGRAPHY New Version
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 02:27:57 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
Sorry to be rambling on in little bits and pieces here, but I just
remembered another item I have that I didn't see mentioned in the
discography. It's a single called "Lip Tripping". It's an instrumental
that appears on the compilation album "Volume 6". The whole "Volume"
series consists of sampler CDs with a huge 100+ page book of liner notes,
mostly featuring UK artists. I don't have much else for info because my
copy is currently on loan to a friend of mine, which one, I can't
remember. That's bad.
The single is slow and blue. As mentioned before, it's an instrumental
but the actual track contains a small 30 second monologue of Johnson
describing the song and where it came from. He says he has a pile of
half-developed ideas, some of which he completes into songs, others he
abandons. Lip Tripping is in the middle.
James Bykowy (ab956)
------------------------------
From: PJ Peterson
To: Infected
Subject: theThe fans
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 07:18:57 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id:
Why yes, I've met a fellow the The fan. In fact, he was my roomate last
fall. The notoroious Hirschdave. I realized what a huge fan he was. He
put me to shame. But then I got over it.
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"It always seems to be right now, until it's later."-Hobbes
"If I had a magic wand, I'd wave it once and fake the rest."-Too Much Joy
___________________________________________________________________________
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From: Genepool@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: theThe fans
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 07:30:38 -0400
Message-ID: <951019073037_127582954@mail04.mail.aol.com>
<ran into some fellow librarians and introduced ourselves. One look at me,
and they said, "Librarians aren't supposed to dress like *that*" with
a look of reproach.>>
I have an "Infected" t-shirt that has "Infected" in big red letters on the
back and the album cover on the front. Usually people there distance when I
wear it.
Steve
------------------------------
From: Genepool@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: theThe fans
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 07:30:38 -0400
Message-ID: <951019073037_127582954@mail04.mail.aol.com>
<ran into some fellow librarians and introduced ourselves. One look at me,
and they said, "Librarians aren't supposed to dress like *that*" with
a look of reproach.>>
I have an "Infected" t-shirt that has "Infected" in big red letters on the
back and the album cover on the front. Usually people there distance when I
wear it.
Steve
------------------------------
From: "Woltjer, Wendy - Canton"
To: PJ Peterson
cc: Infected
Subject: Re: theThe fans
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:18:49 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
On a slightly different but related note...
I spent a weekend in Chicago this summer for a librarian conference
and one night I wore my "Lost Lonely Lustful" shirt out. My friends and
I ran into some fellow librarians and introduced ourselves. One look at
me, and they said, "Librarians aren't supposed to dress like *that*" with
a look of reproach. I took it as a complement. The kicker is that I'm
influencing the youth of America daily--whether they approve of me or
not =).
wendy
------------------------------
From: Smitten123@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Discog. additions...
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 19:41:03 -0400
Message-ID: <951019194102_128123280@emout05.mail.aol.com>
There are a few other things left off of the discog. as well.
1) what about the "Judge Dredd" album that has a the THE song
on it?
2) There was a radio promo kit sent out in G.B. for "dogs of lust."
It included the 12" of Dogs, w/ violence of truth (remix)
and infected (live). It also came with a red and black booklet that
had, although very simple, a never before seen picture/art work. If I
knew where it was I would describe it better. Inside was just basic
info for the THE. Finally, it also came with a T-shirt that I
have not seen elsewhere. It was white, and on the front there
was a HUGE "the THE" in turquoise (and written in the
traditional, scraggly lettering).
3) There was a U.S. promo 12" for Uncertain Smile with two songs, each
different
versions of Uncertain.
I have heard A LOT of versions of Uncertain, but both are
still a bit different from all others.
Tracks are: "Uncertain Smile (long version edit) 7:14"
"Uncertain Smile (short version edit) 3:57"
45 rpm
Produced by Mike Thorne
Edited by John Ingham and Steve Sukman
Sire-Some Bizzare
hand stamped with "#2362"
"the THE" is written like:
THE
EHT
and is tapered on the right side of each line.
PRO-A-1095
So...there you go. Anyone else have this baby? Dave?
Maybe my claim to fame will be having a the THE item
that Dave doesn't!!!
JaY (also known as the Comp. tapes guy and formerly at
pkastner@ucs.indiana.edu)
------------------------------
From: euroboy@postoffice.ptd.net (micah stupak)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: the The tablatures
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 19:57:56 -0400
Message-Id: <199510192357.TAA01777@ns1.ptd.net>
>My English isn't very good...
>
>I'm a big the The fan and a beginner in guitar playing. I've been browsing
>all over the Internet searching after the The guitar tablatures but have
>found only few of them. Is there anyone who has tabbed out some the The
>songs? Or at least have ideas?
the only one i've seen is the chord tab for love is stronger than death.
what have you found?
peter gabriel:here comes the flood (1990).
tenderspot of the daphne.
euroboy@postoffice.ptd.net
comedy is the last refuge of the nonconformist mind.
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: smitten trying to get my goat...
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 21:48:19 -0400
Message-ID: <951019214812_49175926@emout04.mail.aol.com>
judge dredd original motion picture soundtrack. "darkness falls" 3:43.
550 music epic soundtracks BK67220. 1995.
there you have it. i also emailed steve with a whole bunch of other missing
items, but not the two edits of uncertain smile.. i recently saw that for
sale, and didn't buy it. so yes, you have something i don't have, but i got
more that you don't. heh heh heh...
------------------------------
From: "Mark Lane Ritter"
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: new the the song?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 01:14:23 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <199510200514.BAA94967@pilot08.cl.msu.edu>
ummmm....this may be a weird question....is there a new the the song out
because i read in a video game magazine that those who pre-ordered a sony
playstation, received a cd with new music by sony artists (including the the)
anyone have any idea what song was on this disc?
--
- ------------------------------------------------------------
I "Don't look back cuz tomorrow finds you older than today I
I Don't look back don't let one more minute slip away..." I
I -Alex Lumelsky I
I I
I Mark Ritter I
I ritterma@pilot.msu.edu I
- ------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
From: jennifer frank thompson
To: Mark Lane Ritter
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: new the the song?
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 21:10:59 -0600 (MDT)
Message-ID:
On Fri, 20 Oct 1995, Mark Lane Ritter wrote:
> ummmm....this may be a weird question....is there a new the the song out
> because i read in a video game magazine that those who pre-ordered a sony
> playstation, received a cd with new music by sony artists (including the the)
> anyone have any idea what song was on this disc?
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> I "Don't look back cuz tomorrow finds you older than today I
> I Don't look back don't let one more minute slip away..." I
> I -Alex Lumelsky I
> I I
> I Mark Ritter I
> I ritterma@pilot.msu.edu I
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
I have no idea if this has been responded to yet, I am doing a quick
browse of old email.
Yes, there is a The The song on the Sony Playstation sampler, but it is
not new, it is "I Saw the Light".
ShaneT
------------------------------
From: "Corbett J. Klempay"
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: newsletter...
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 02:12:52 -0400
Message-id: <95Oct20.021302edt.2006-4@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
I too would like to receive the newsletter. That address is:
Corbett J. Klempay
Box 2297 Johns Hopkins AMR
Baltimore, MD 21218
-Corbett J. Klempay
The Johns Hopkins University
cklempay@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: newsletter
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 07:53:22 -0400
Message-ID: <951020075318_128516925@emout05.mail.aol.com>
contact THETHEXXX@aol.com for the much outdated newsletter. this ain't the
right address. all clear?
------------------------------
From: Steven W Hill
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Discography updates
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 13:23:20 CDT
Message-Id: <9510201815.AA11686@harper.cc.il.us>
Just a note to say I've received all your comments about the discography
omissions. I have to admit that my mind was very much NOT on the task at
hand when I was doing it. I do, in fact, have the JUDGE DREDD soundtrack,
the Some Bizzarre comp, the Lip Tripping (Volume) CD, etcetera, I just
plain FORGOT.
Anyway, I expected an update shortly after this one for several reasons,
so that's okay. Soon, and I'll try to pay more attention to it.
No comments on the "I Saw the Light" screen saver?
--
[][] [][] Steve Hill, Network Communications Specialist, 708-925-6273
[] [] [] Harper College, 1200 W Algonquin Rd, Palatine IL 60067-7398
----shill@harper.cc.il.us----http://www.harper.cc.il.us----
[] [] [] "Mostly harmless."
[][] [][] personal:(http://www.idis.com/shill/index.htm)
------------------------------
From: bgreen@mv.us.adobe.com (Bowie Green)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Tabs
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:00:06 -0800
Message-Id:
So now that everybody has mentioned what tabs for guitar they have, how
about telling us where they can be found. I used to frequent an ftp site
with lots of tabs and lyrics for bands but I don't remeber the address....
------------------------------
From: Scott
To: "'infected@cs.uchicago.edu'"
Subject: violence of truth
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:07:05 -0500
Message-ID: <01BA9EF5.63613100@steamer>
does anyone know for SURE whether the snare drum on "violence of truth" =
is a sample or actually James Eller's kit or both? I have been trying to =
figure this out for 4 years and even some University profs have tried to =
help me analyxe it but it is just a total enigma! MY NAME IS KEVIN, =
please respond even if you don't know the answer. I'd like to hear any =
stories or insights from anyone. If you are an audio engineer we HAVE to =
talk! peace, beauty,=20
kevin
------------------------------
From: Genepool@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: violence of truth
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:23:33 -0400
Message-ID: <951020172301_76000092@mail04.mail.aol.com>
<a sample or actually James Eller's kit or both?
I don't know but, it sounds like a natural sound to me. Of course you can
take a natural sound and edit the raw wave forms, add to it etc. It seems to
have a lot of feel to it though. Usually samples aren't as expressive.
That snare is actually one of my favorite things on the album. I could listen
to the intro over and over.
Steve
*****
As long as Jesus gives us everything we want....we love him.
------------------------------
From: Jeff Croft
To: Genepool@aol.com
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: violence of truth
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:48:06 -0600 (MDT)
Message-ID:
On Fri, 20 Oct 1995 Genepool@aol.com wrote:
> <> a sample or actually James Eller's kit or both?
>
> I don't know but, it sounds like a natural sound to me. Of course you can
> take a natural sound and edit the raw wave forms, add to it etc. It seems to
> have a lot of feel to it though. Usually samples aren't as expressive.
>
> That snare is actually one of my favorite things on the album. I could listen
> to the intro over and over.
Yeah, I could too.
Jeff
jdcroft@eng.utah.edu
------------------------------
From: "Corbett J. Klempay"
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Harmonica...
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:02:39 -0400
Message-id: <95Oct20.160240edt.172-2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Does anyone happen to know the model/type of harmonica played in
"Another Boy Drowning," the live version on Solitude? I'm interested to
know what models/types are played throughout the various albums, but I'm
particularly concerned with "Another Boy Drowning" and "Slow Emotion
Replay." Thanks.
-Corbett J. Klempay
The Johns Hopkins University
cklempay@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
------------------------------
From: "Gordon C. Roadcap"
To: THE the
Subject: Tindersticks
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 12:21:22 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
Hello,
Sorry to use this forum for non THE THe material, but I've lost
the other THE THe fan who also enjoys the Tindersticks. I don't remember
your name or address, but you once e-mailed me looking for lyrics and a
list for the Tindersticks. Well, although I've had no luck on that
front, on the Nick Cave list a release date was given for their new live
album and a date was set for some live U.S. shows. I don't know if your
around SF, but on 17 Nov. they play at Bimbos.
Gordon
------------------------------
From: jdagnino@lascar.puc.cl (Jorge Dagnino)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: question
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 18:21:38 -0500
Message-Id: <9510222321.AA02085@lascar>
Hi!
This is the first message I send to this list and I am quite eager to
mantain contact with any The The fan.
My own discovery of The The was quite an accident (and I suppose I'm not
the only one ). Being I an all time fan of The Smiths I was intrigued when
I found browsing through my local CD-Shop, that this guy was working with
Johnny Marr (That was "Dusk"). I inmediately bought it. Since then (and
after I had fallen in love with Dusk) I have acquired Infected, Mind Bomb,
Solitude and Hanky Panky. Unfortunately here in Chile The The or Matt
Johnson are not very well known (although I've done a big publicity work,
rambling to every person I talk about pop-rock about the virtues of the
band!) and most of the CD's of The The were bought in trips I've made to
other countries or through dealers that import them directly from the
States.
Here I go again.Well, I think that my first question is how did Matt
Johnson meet Johnny Marr and agreed to work together and on what terms are
they (Marr doesn't appear in Hanky Panky: momentary or definitive? Too much
Electronic perhaps?).
Another thing, as I end my message, the e-mail above is my dad's, so if you
ever send me something please call me Alex. Thank you!
Bye!
------------------------------
From: Brandon K Snavely
To: Infected
Subject: Re: updated info? (fwd)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 10:29:50 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
I made an inquiry to thethexxx@aol.com as to how far into the
recording process the GunSluts project is and when we can expect to see
it released, and they sent me a seemingly generic response:
Freeze
bksst6+@pitt.edu
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 20:45:17 -0400
From:THETHEXXX@aol.com
To: bksst6+@pitt.edu
Subject: Re: updated info?
These are the THE THE WorldWideWeb sites. Much visuals and audio. Hope you
have Mosaic or Netscape.
http://www.wpi.edu/~thethe/thethe/thethe.html (independent site)
http://www.sony.com/Music/ArtistInfo/TheThe.html (Sony site)
Send an e-mail to
infected@CS.UChicago.EDU
with the word "subscribe" in it to get on a correspondance e-mail list
Send your mailing address to receive a printed newsletter
"Gun Sluts" in 96
Not tour till "Gun Sluts" in 96
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From: djelline@haverford.edu (Jellinek David M)
To: bksst6+@pitt.edu (Brandon K Snavely)
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: updated info? (fwd)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 13:13:28 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <9510231708.AA24439@acc.haverford.edu>
I too have sent mail to thethexxx@aol.com asking about Gun Sluts, etc...
I did not even get the generic response! In 96. What does that mean?
Anyone out there in the biz got some more concrete stuff for us to
imagine from? Would be appreciated...
Also, an idea: when the The does tour, could we all mail one another with
the shows we are going to--I'd love to meet some of you and talk about
the show afterwards, or something to that effect.
Dave
------------------------------
From: Craig Sefton
To: djelline@haverford.edu (Jellinek David M)
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: updated info? (fwd)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 08:05:56 +0200 (SAT)
Message-Id: <199510240605.IAA17001@beastie.cs.und.ac.za>
Dave wrote:
> Also, an idea: when the The does tour, could we all mail one another with
> the shows we are going to--I'd love to meet some of you and talk about
> the show afterwards, or something to that effect.
Speaking of touring, anyone know MJ's view on South Africa? I somehow doubt
that he'll be coming out here, but one can only hope.
- -Craig.
------------------------------
From: Doug Chase (Volt Computer)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: updated info? (fwd)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 14:34:05 PDT
Message-Id: <9510232335.AA05508@netmail2.microsoft.com>
- ----------
>From: Jellinek David M
>Also, an idea: when the The does tour, could we all mail one another with
>the shows we are going to--I'd love to meet some of you and talk about
>the show afterwards, or something to that effect.
Sounds cool. Is anybody on this list near Seattle? That's where I am.
I just moved here in May, and I'm hoping that The The will stop
through here on the next (when / if?) tour. At least there's probably
a better chance they'll stop here than in Lincoln, Nebraska which is
where I used to live. I did drive to Denver a couple years ago to see
them open for DM. Good show, but I was disappointed that The The only
played for 30-40 minutes.
Doug Chase
------------------------------
From: bgreen@mv.us.adobe.com (Bowie Green)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: updated info? (fwd)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 16:38:21 -0800
Message-Id:
>----------
>>From: Jellinek David M
>
>>Also, an idea: when the The does tour, could we all mail one another with
>>the shows we are going to--I'd love to meet some of you and talk about
>>the show afterwards, or something to that effect.
>
>Sounds cool. Is anybody on this list near Seattle? That's where I am.
> I just moved here in May, and I'm hoping that The The will stop
>through here on the next (when / if?) tour. At least there's probably
>a better chance they'll stop here than in Lincoln, Nebraska which is
>where I used to live. I did drive to Denver a couple years ago to see
>them open for DM. Good show, but I was disappointed that The The only
>played for 30-40 minutes.
>
>Doug Chase
Hey, I'm in Seattle and just moved here in May as well. I saw a show in
Sacramento with DM and was furious that they only played for such a short
time. Especially considering I was a bit late because of traffic. To top it
off, I sure wouldn't have paid just to see DM. This was after a missed
attempt at a backstage pass for a much more intimate show when The The came
through on their own in Sacramento. I wasn't sure if a friend had secured
me a pass. Well, she had but I didn't go because she never called me that
day. Bummer huh? Had the pass but didn't go...
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: give me the scoop
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 22:16:10 -0400
Message-ID: <951023221225_131187960@emout04.mail.aol.com>
anyone from new york? i will be in the big city this weekend, can anyone
tell me about shows going on, or good record stores to visit? i haven't been
up in about 2 years, so let me know...
thanks.
------------------------------
From: AmyCal@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: give me the scoop
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 19:36:13 -0400
Message-ID: <951024193606_77237175@emout05.mail.aol.com>
i have a huge list of great record stores, mostly in the village. do you
have a fax machine at work? i could send it to you there. i suppose i
could also overnight it too you too. it was sent to me via email but i doubt
it is still available.
let me know.
------------------------------
From: Smitten123@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: discussion time...
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 18:25:27 -0400
Message-ID: <951024182525_131909125@mail04.mail.aol.com>
Well, hello.
This list has been kinda slow again recently,
so I thought (even after being warned not to) that I would
try and get something going. Everyone try and answer the following
questions:
1) Where (city, state) do you live?
2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
etc)?
3) Hobbies?
4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
Since I'm starting this I will go first.
1) Cincy, Ohio.
2) Just graduated, and looking for a job. That means I fall within the "bum"
category.
3) Music--playing and recording original stuff, collecting Smiths, the The,
etc.
4) My 7" of "Controversial Subject." I like it because the music is so
simple
and Matt's voice is so awful. It has inspired me to try and create music of
my own.
JaY
------------------------------
From: Scott
To: "'EVERYONE ON THE LIST!'" ,
"'Yukari Tanimoto'"
Subject: RE: discussion time...
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 20:14:35 -0500
Message-ID: <01BAA3E0.423855E0@steamer>
I Live In Dallas, Tx, I am an audio engineer for a living and I play =
guitar for some local projects, mostly as a "hired gun" in the Marr =
tradition. That is my hobby and my life. My Fave TheThe possession is a =
Infected tour tee shirt autographed to me by all the Mind Bomb-era band =
members. I won a radio
contest (fluke) and got to meet them all before the show. Matt was =
kinda bummed out- I think his brother had just died. Johnny let me play =
his guitar and taught me much about being a "musician" instead of an =
Egomaniacal guitar player. It was way back then, but I remember it every =
time I see that shirt with the ejaculating devil.
- ----------
From: Yukari Tanimoto[SMTP:ytan@uclink2.berkeley.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 1995 3:33 PM
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
On Tue, 24 Oct 1995 Smitten123@aol.com wrote:
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> Well, hello.
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> This list has been kinda slow again recently,
> so I thought (even after being warned not to) that I would=20
> try and get something going. Everyone try and answer the following
> questions:
>=20
> 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Currently, I live in Berkeley, CA. On vacations, I live in Irvine, CA
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> 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer =
programer,
> etc)?
I'm a student.=20
> 3) Hobbies?
LISTENING TO MUSIC, going to concerts, reading, movies...(pretty boring, =
ehh?)
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> 4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
My box single of Gravitate to me. Cause it's The The and a friend of=20
mine gave it to me.=20
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> Since I'm starting this I will go first.
>=20
> 1) Cincy, Ohio.
>=20
> 2) Just graduated, and looking for a job. That means I fall within =
the "bum"
> category.
>=20
> 3) Music--playing and recording original stuff, collecting Smiths, the =
The,
> etc.
>=20
> 4) My 7" of "Controversial Subject." I like it because the music is =
so
> simple
> and Matt's voice is so awful. It has inspired me to try and create =
music of
> my own.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> JaY
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From: Scot R Stanfield
To: "infected@cs.uchicago.edu"
Subject: RE: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 02:44:40 -0700
Message-Id: <01BAA482.FCA845A0@cgyr2.ccinet.ab.ca>
>P.s. What other bands do Infectants listen to? Top 5 perhaps.
Well, I've got a six disk changer (12 actually but my wife won't let me =
at one of the cartridges so ...) so my current top 5 plus Bonus Disk:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3DGarbage
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=3D=3D=3DDavid Bowie - Outside
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=3D=3D=3DPeter Murphy - Deep
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- -----------------------------------
=3D=3D=3DElvis Costello - Armed Forces
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- -----------------------------------
=3D=3D=3DThoughts of a Dry Brain in A Dry Season II compilation*
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=3D=3D=3DBraveheart soundtrack
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D
* Dry Brain is a compilation CD of my own. Volume two consists of the =
following tracks:
The Icicle Works - Out of Season
Annie Lennox - Why
Sarah McLaughlan - Ol' 55
The Chameleons - Swamp Thing
NIN - A Quiet Place
Elvis Costello - Shipbuilding
Talking Heads - Girlfriend is Better
The The - Lung Shadows
Stewart Copeland/Stan Ridgway - Don't Box Me In
Yazoo - Midnight
The Style Council - My Ever Changing Moods (Acoustic version)
Joe Jackson - Not Here, Not Now
The Icicle Works - Love is A Wonderful Colour
The list goes on and on but Tom Snyder just started and you've gotta =
have priorites ...
"There's a fine line between saying things that make sense ..." TMCM
SRS
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From: ceylon@shadow.net
To: Infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 23:37:40 -0400
Message-Id: <199510250337.XAA11301@shadow.net>
Everyone try and answer the following
>questions:
>
>1) Where (city, state) do you live?====Miami,Fla. Hitch-hiked my way
across the...
>
>2) What is your profession:==== student
>
>
>3) Hobbies? ====Guitar
>
>4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?====Autographed copy of Dusk
(Palmer/Collard)
>
#### I've noticed quite a few people on the list mention "playing" music.
Anybody ever cover a theThe tune (on tape,dat,.wav etc...). A banjo version
of Uncertain Smile would send me reeling.
P.s. What other bands do Infectants listen to? Top 5 perhaps.
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From: James Bykowy
To: ceylon@shadow.net
cc: Infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 23:48:39 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
On Tue, 24 Oct 1995 ceylon@shadow.net wrote:
> P.s. What other bands do Infectants listen to? Top 5 perhaps.
Sorry, I thought of this shortly after I mailed my bio earlier. My top
5? Outside of the The?
Joe Jackson, definitely
Spirit of the West
The Cure
They Might Be Giants
Violent Femmes
Then it starts trailing off into stuff like Throwing Muses, Belly, Bela
Fleck, 54-40, Gershwin, Bjork, blah blah blah...
James
"Thirty days has September, October, June, and February...
All the rest have thirty-one, except my brother,
Who got six months."
- Peter Sellers as "Hrundi V. Bakshi", The Party
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From: Peter Caira
To: James Bykowy
cc: ceylon@shadow.net, Infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:52:33 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
On Tue, 24 Oct 1995, James Bykowy wrote:
> Then it starts trailing off into stuff like Throwing Muses, Belly, Bela
> Fleck, 54-40, Gershwin, Bjork, blah blah blah...
^^^^^^
Wow! They're my favourite Canadian band! Brad Merrit even sent me mail
about my 5440 homepage! (=
Peter Caira
caira@server.uwindsor.ca
http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira
Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again
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From: Peter Caira
To: ceylon@shadow.net
cc: Infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:47:54 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
On Tue, 24 Oct 1995 ceylon@shadow.net wrote:
> #### I've noticed quite a few people on the list mention "playing" music.
> Anybody ever cover a theThe tune (on tape,dat,.wav etc...). A banjo version
> of Uncertain Smile would send me reeling.
Well, my band used to cover Slow Emotion Replay and also The Beat(en)
Generation, but we stopped doing that once we had too many songs in our
repitoire...dunno if anything got on tape tho...
Peter Caira
caira@server.uwindsor.ca
http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira
Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again
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From: ceylon@shadow.net
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 02:16:54 -0400
Message-Id: <199510250616.CAA22263@shadow.net>
>>P.s. What other bands do Infectants listen to? Top 5 perhaps.
>
>Not that these are a top five, but the seven in my changer now include:
>RHCP Blood Suagr Sex Magik
>Ani Defranco
>hanky Panky
>Garbage (new, to me)################How is this ablum?
>Heather Nova (new)
>Natalie Merchant (tigerlilly)
>Ani Defranco--not a pretty girl
>
>Resevoir Dogs Sndtrack ##### Loved the flick,,,what's the soundtrack like?
>Live--Throwing Copper#### I can't blame you here....intensity takes on a
new meaning.
>Portishead
>The Cream of Clapton
>
>Also like NIN, Sarah Mclaughlin, Tori--stuff like that...
>
>Enough?##### Never....music transcende...petty limits
>
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Check into religion...
I hear it's a rush
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From: "Mr R. Forster"
To: Smitten123@aol.com
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:43:29 +0000 (GMT)
Message-Id: <199510251143.LAA24354@uxa.liv.ac.uk>
In the last mail Smitten123@aol.com said:
>
>
>
>
> Well, hello.
>
> This list has been kinda slow again recently,
> so I thought (even after being warned not to) that I would
> try and get something going. Everyone try and answer the following
> questions:
>
> 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Liverpool, England.
>
> 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
> etc)?
Computer Technician and Tart.
>
> 3) Hobbies?
Listening and collecting music.
>
> 4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
My shirt that Matt signed, and Infected LP, my first thethe possession.>
Roberto
>
>
>
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From: foxrean@nznet.gen.nz (Nigel Rean)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 09:36:44 +1300
Message-Id: <199510252036.JAA30337@nznet.gen.nz>
>Everyone try and answer the following questions:
>1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Panmure, Auckland, New Zealand...
>2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
>etc)?
I'm a er Fruit and Vege man... I work in a supermarket :)
>3) Hobbies?
My favourite hoby is emptying beer cans (normally down my gullet)
and I run an online service (which just quietly) I'm piping this mailing list
through, in the vain hope I can generate some sort of Interest in TheThe
here.
>4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
I'm just so incredibly jealous that you all have TheThe possesions
to actually list... You don't know what I would give for the simplest of
t-shirts.
I dont have anything other than 4 albums... Do they count?
Ah right, the "other" music top five:
- -Micheal Oldfield
- -Live
- -Led Zep
- -Malcolm McLaren
- -Pearl Jam
\Omy
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From: James Bykowy
To: Nigel Rean
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:23:42 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
> >1) Where (city, state) do you live?
> Panmure, Auckland, New Zealand...
> I'm a er Fruit and Vege man... I work in a supermarket :)
...
> >4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
> I'm just so incredibly jealous that you all have TheThe possesions
> to actually list... You don't know what I would give for the simplest of
> t-shirts.
Serious! Hi, I'm the guy from Saskatchewan. I know as much about the
The as anybody I know (save for the people in this newsgroup) and that
isn't much! My meagre aspirations are to get a t-shirt in the hopes I
can be a small beacon to other scattered and yet unknown the The fans in
my city. You know, I actually saw a concert listing for the The playing
somewhere in Ontario a couple of years ago... I cried.
Hey, I used to dream about seeing Joe Jackson in concert too, until he
finally came to Calgary and I did it. So maybe there's hope.
> -Micheal Oldfield
> -Live
> -Led Zep
> -Malcolm McLaren
> -Pearl Jam
Ay ay ay... Malcolm McLaren... do people actually like that stuff? I
picked up Paris as my choice of a free gift for supporting my local
campus radio station - it's TERRIBLE! Is it representative of his music?
Email/flame me. Go ahead.
James
"Thirty days has September, October, June, and February...
All the rest have thirty-one, except my brother,
Who got six months."
- Peter Sellers as "Hrundi V. Bakshi", The Party
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From: Craig Sefton
To: Smitten123@aol.com
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 12:14:39 +0200 (SAT)
Message-Id: <199510261014.MAA26983@beastie.cs.und.ac.za>
> 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Durban, South Africa.
> 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
> etc)?
Student (studying BSc in Computer Science), bum.
> 3) Hobbies?
DJing at a local club for Alternate Evening, reading, watching
videos, and the top of the list: Listening to Music :) Also, on the
side I write poetry, songs etc.
> 4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
Well it's kinda hard to get rarities or special stuff out here in
South Africa, but I've got to say my copy of Pornography of Despair
will take top honors ;) Just kidding folks ... just kidding. I'll
have to say my whole the The collection because I don't know how I
could live without it.
5) Favourite bands
This is tough, but my other top band (aside from the The) would be
The Artist Formerly Known As Prince. Other bands are: PJ Harvey,
Live, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Nirvana, NIN, Nina Hagan,
B52's, Leonard Cohen, Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, Soundgarden, REM,
Rage Against the Machine, Pop Will Eat Itself, Cypress Hill, Alice
in Chains, Depeche Mode, Front Line Assembly, Sonic Youth, Red Hot
Chilli Peppers, Faith No More, Morphine ... geez, I better stop
there before the list gets too long.
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From: Joonas Virtasalo
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 10:45:44 +0200
Message-Id: <199510300747.JAA09153@jazz>
At 18:25 24.10.1995 -0400, you wrote:
I'm not an American, but I'll answer anyway:)
>1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Ulvila, Satakunta, Finland.
>2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
I study in Satakunta Polytechnics ADP. I don't know the proper word what all
this stuff I'm studying could be called in english, but computer programming
could be pretty close.
>3) Hobbies?
Computers, reading and music. I also play guitar a bit.
>4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
This is a tough one. I guess albums 'Burning Blue Soul', 'Mind Bomb' and
'Dusk' are on top.
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Joonas Virtasalo, Satakunta Polytechnic, ADP-Department ! !
joonas@jazz.cc.spt.fi, http://www.spt.fi/~joonas ! !
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From: "Vickie Ellis"
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: discussion time...
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 10:50:56 EST5EDT
Message-Id: <2131E581954@titan.cc.emory.edu>
Hi everyone,
In answer to the following,
1. Name is Vickie, I live in Atlanta, Ga.
2. Occupation : lofty systems developer. (read: grunt programmer)
Work at Emory University.
3. Hobbies: photography (serious, but dont ask me to do any damn
weddings), raising 6-toed cats, working on Vettes.
4. Favorite The The possession: Wellllll, I guess it would have to
be the long-play of Uncertain Smile. It has my favorite cover as
well. OR, maybe the clip from British T.V. of an interview of
Matt in which his face is (strangely) superimposed over a live
performance of theirs, in which he says (to the camera) "i love
you all" and then laughs..I just liked that for some reason.
Ok, bored you all enough now...Vickie
>
> This list has been kinda slow again recently,
> so I thought (even after being warned not to) that I would
> try and get something going. Everyone try and answer the following
> questions:
>
> 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
> 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
> etc)?
> 3) Hobbies?
> 4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
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From: Doug Chase (Volt Computer)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 00:25:44 PDT
Message-Id: <9510250838.AA06786@netmail2.microsoft.com>
- ----------
>From:
>
>1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Redmond, WA. Near Seattle. Used to live in Omaha / Lincoln NE. Just
moved here so I haven't figured out all the cool places to go and cool
shit to do.
>2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
>etc)?
I guess I'm officially a "Software Test Engineer" but I don't really
feel like one. I was a student for a while, then a bum for a while
after that, and I just got this job in May. So I kind of still feel
more like a student / bum than a real, genuine contributing member of society.
>3) Hobbies?
Music and cars. I can't really play anything (but played guitar for a
while -- didn't everybody?) but I love listening to it. I collect The
The stuff, and although I'm getting quite a bit more stuff lately, I
know I'm nowhere near the level of some of the folks on here. But
probably my biggest hobby is racing. I used to race stock cars, but
quit that a few years ago and now I Autocross my 88 Fiero Formula on
most weekends.
>4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
Actually, as stupid as it sounds, it might be the T-shirt I got on the
DM tour. I like it because it's really simple and because it say
"lost, lustful, lonely" on the back which often describes me. As far
as musical stuff, it's tough to pick just one. I don't have anything
really extroardinary. I got the wooden box free. I guess I like some
of my old 12" singles the best. And the original covers of Soul Mining
and Infected are pretty cool. Like I said, I don't really have
anything *really* cool, and this is a tough crowd to impress. :-)
5) I guess we're adding other favorite bands on here now so mine would
be (in no particular order):
NIN (cliche, I know, but I still love 'em)
Hoodoo Gurus (although I think they peaked around Blow Your Cool)
Dire Straits
Matthew Sweet
Inspiral Carpets
That's all for now. Later...
Doug
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From: sjsmith@mail.os2bbs.com (Stephen J. Smith)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 23:28:33 EDT
Message-Id: <9510280326.AA7300@bbs.os2bbs.com>
>1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Another the The fan in Arlington, VA (the city famous for its
cemetary).
>2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer, etc)?
Computer programmer (for the government).
>3) Hobbies?
None (that I want the world to know about).
>4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
Probably the "Dusk" CD because it's so fine and it's really the first
the The music I heard (I'm not sure how I missed them before 1993). I
do have some collectable the The items but Dusk still comes out on
top. (But if my apartment were on fire and I could only save one
thing I'd probably grab my out-of-print Infected laserdisc.) Or maybe
my favorite the The posession is just my memory of the Lonely Planet
tour. (I saw the The in DC and they were great... about a month later
I was in Utah & saw them at SaltAire by the Great Salt Lake... the
audience was SO MUCH BETTER than in DC! And the audience's enthusiasm
made the band much better!)
Also listening to:
- - Carpenters (I loved the Spin review of Dusk - I think it was in Spin
- - when the reviewer said that not since Karen Carpenter has a voice
been so carefully recorded.)
- - Peter Murphy - I always listen to alot of Peter Murphy/Bauhaus
around Halloween
- - Deus - I saw this Belgian band's video (Suds & Soda) once on 120
Minutes earlier in the year - I've been listening to this CD alot ever
since
- - Erasure - the new CD is great (especially after their somewhat
disappointing prior CD)
- - Chris Isaak - His latest CD is also alot better than his last
- - Violent Femmes - I'm at least have one thing in common with other
the The fans
- -----------------------------------------------------
"The thought of Mary Tyler Moore sitting on a toilet is upsetting.
It's icky. It's near the top of the list of Things We Could Very
Well Do Without." - Tom Shales, The Washington Post, 9-28-95
- -----------------------------------------------------
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From: Steven W Hill
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time... (fwd)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 95 2:25:04 CST
Message-Id: <9510290825.AA22715@harper.cc.il.us>
> >1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Des Plaines, IL (Chicago NW)
> >2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer, etc)?
Network cabling specialist, club DJ, freelance advertising
> >3) Hobbies?
Movies! Music. Collecting (CDs, records, books, videotapes, laserdiscs,
photos, posters, etc).
> >4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
If you can stand the gloating, my early 7" singles mainly. Mind Bomb tour
program, Infected book. First pressing Burning Blue Soul. and so on. Why?
To gloat with, I guess. Actually my real favorite possession is the small
The The logo pin that came with the "Beat(en) Generation" 12" box. I
bought two boxes so I could wear the pin and not worry about losing it.
Good thing I did, because I certainly lost it. :(
> >5) Other bands you like?
Heh. Okay, you asked. The Legendary Pink Dots, Skinny Puppy, The Cure,
Genesis, Cocteau Twins, Charlatans, Foetus, Jazz Butcher, The Young Gods,
Front Line Assembly, Nine Inch Nails, That Petrol Emotion, Shriekback,
Wolfgang Press, Coil, Pink Floyd, Love And Rockets. Bartok, Debussy,
Dvorak, Faure, Gorecki, Kilar, Prokofiev, Tchaikovsky, Vaughan Williams,
Walton, Schubert. Franz Waxman, Jerry Goldsmith, Patrick Doyle, Basil
Poledouris, John Barry.
- -shill
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[][] [][] Steve Hill, Network Communications Specialist, 708-925-6273
[] [] [] Harper College, 1200 W Algonquin Rd, Palatine IL 60067-7398
----shill@harper.cc.il.us----http://www.harper.cc.il.us----
[] [] [] "Mostly harmless."
[][] [][] personal:(http://www.idis.com/shill/index.htm)
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From: Graham Moore
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 9:13:25 +0000 (GMT)
Message-ID: <9510300918.aa14682@scott.sco.com>
>1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Home: Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England
Work: Watford, Hertfordshire, England
grahamm@sco.com
>2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
Software engineer for the Santa Cruz Operation.
>3) Hobbies?
Computers.
Sci-Fi books and films.
Cinema in general.
Walking.
>4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
My memory of the Royal Albert Hall concert, July 1990. I just wish I could
re-live it all again.
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From: Superfly TNT
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 22:29:31 -0600 (MDT)
Message-Id:
1) I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada... we're just east of the Rockies
and right above Montana...
2) I'm a graduate student in the department of Mechanical Engineering at
the University of Calgary...
3) Hobbies are listening to music, going to concerts, reading fiction,
watching and playing baseball, going to the movies...
4) well, I'll tell you what is my favorite FORMER "the The" possession...
it was the "infected" T-shirt I got during the Mind Bomb tour (at
Federation Hall, University of Waterloo... where I did my undergrad) that
featured that mutli-coloured/abstract satan-like demon that seems to be
singing into a microphone but on closer inspection is actually holding
his erect and ejaculating penis... I liked the shirt because it always got
some response from friends and classmates and therefore, provided an
opening for me to preach and talk about the The... but alas, my shirt
got burned up with the rest of my house 2-1/2 years ago...
5) other music I just love include:
Pavement
Pixies
Superchunk
Sugar/Bob Mould/Husker Du
Velvet Underground/Lou Reed
jale
Afghan Whigs
Yan
- ---
Ned: (Sees medallion) What is that thing?
Bill: That's the Blessed Virgin, Ned.
Ned: She's pretty, huh?
Bill: Not only is she pretty, but she's got a nice personality.
And she's the mother of God.
- from "Simple Men" (Hal Hartley)
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From: mvanderl@ozemail.com.au (Michael Vanderlaan)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 08:47:33 GMT
Message-ID:
In keeping with tradition
1) From Sydney, Australia... last visited (I think) by Mr Johnson and co. in
about '89 or somesuch.
2) Marketing Analyst for an international hotel chain.
3) Music (playing & listening), food & wine, good movies etc....
4) Vinyl copy of Burning Blue Soul
5) Robert Fripp, Eno et al., old Bowie...
Regards to all
Mick.......... (I hope you feel glad that you knew me.... while I was here !)
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From: Patrick Stewart
To: Smitten123@aol.com
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 08:47:00 -0500 (CDT)
Message-Id:
> 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
DeKalb, Illinois (although my heart belongs to Orlando, FL)
>
> 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
> etc)?
Eternal graduate student/prostitute to the system :'/
>
> 3) Hobbies?
catching up on readings from last semester, student politics, writing
pretentiously bad poetry, playing beach volleyball (haven't done the last
two lately... to the relief of many!)
>
> 4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
tape copy of my cds with Soul Mining on one side, Mind Bomb the other (I
wrote my masters thesis to this, 4 hours a day, five days a week for four
months)
As far as other music in my cd player...
Front 242- up evil
James Brown- 20 hits
Bare Naked Ladies- Gordon
Peter Gabriel- Passion
Shriekback- Oil and Gold
(as you can guess, I've been too poor to update my cd collection) :'(
Patrick Stewart
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From: "Woltjer, Wendy - Canton"
To: Smitten123@aol.com
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: about me
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 09:23:41 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
>
> 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Ann Arbor, MI
>
> 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
> etc)?
Children's Librarian and Professional Student
>
> 3) Hobbies?
Painting (mostly watercolors), Writing
>
> 4) Favorite "the The" possession, and why?
My "Lost, Lonely, Lustful" shirt because I tried to get one when
the The opened for Depeche Mode, but was too late...then Matt came back a
few months later and I snagged one!!
5) I am a die hard Smiths fan...I also listen to the Cure, Oasis (even
though they've skunked me out of two shows), the Verve, Suede, the
Sundays, and Bjork.>
>
>
------------------------------
From: Yukari Tanimoto
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:33:56 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
On Tue, 24 Oct 1995 Smitten123@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, hello.
>
> This list has been kinda slow again recently,
> so I thought (even after being warned not to) that I would
> try and get something going. Everyone try and answer the following
> questions:
>
> 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Currently, I live in Berkeley, CA. On vacations, I live in Irvine, CA
> 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
> etc)?
I'm a student.
> 3) Hobbies?
LISTENING TO MUSIC, going to concerts, reading, movies...(pretty boring,
ehh?)
> 4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
My box single of Gravitate to me. Cause it's The The and a friend of
mine gave it to me.
> Since I'm starting this I will go first.
>
> 1) Cincy, Ohio.
>
> 2) Just graduated, and looking for a job. That means I fall within the "bum"
> category.
>
> 3) Music--playing and recording original stuff, collecting Smiths, the The,
> etc.
>
> 4) My 7" of "Controversial Subject." I like it because the music is so
> simple
> and Matt's voice is so awful. It has inspired me to try and create music of
> my own.
>
>
>
> JaY
>
>
>
>
------------------------------
From: James Bykowy
To: Smitten123@aol.com
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 23:42:57 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
On Tue, 24 Oct 1995 Smitten123@aol.com wrote:
> Everyone try and answer the following questions:
> 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada, the city I'm confident the The will
include on their next tour...
> 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
> etc)?
I used to be called a "Development Engineer" but I think they changed my
title to "Product Engineer". Basically, I program computers.
> 3) Hobbies?
Dancing, of many sorts. I've been into Ukrainian folk dancing for about
12 years, and now I've just gotten into the latin ballroom scene, mostly
as a performance art.
> 4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
The t-shirt I have yet to buy. Or the "energy remix" of Infected, which
I don't actually own, but I like it anyway. Of all the albums, they all
rank about equally, with Infected taking it by a neck.
Hey, since we're trying to get the discussion going, here's a question
for all:
I seem to notice a lot of middle east references on Infected, as well as
some in Mind Bomb ("from Mombasa to Miami, Beiruit to Bangladesh...",
"are you ready Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed...", "Islam is rising... the
Christians mobilizing...", etc... Has MJ spent any time in the middle
east? These references never came to such clarity for me until I started
reading up on Pakistan, which I will be visiting in February through
work. So I'm noticing a lot of Islamic-Moslem talk. Anyone? Anyone?
James
"Thirty days has September, October, June, and February...
All the rest have thirty-one, except my brother,
Who got six months."
- Peter Sellers as "Hrundi V. Bakshi", The Party
------------------------------
From: Madhatter
To: Smitten123@aol.com
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 20:15:59 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id:
On Tue, 24 Oct 1995 Smitten123@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, hello.
>
> This list has been kinda slow again recently,
> so I thought (even after being warned not to) that I would
> try and get something going. Everyone try and answer the following
> questions:
>
> 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Fairfax, VA
>
> 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
> etc)?
all of the abouve>
> 3) Hobbies?
> responding to silly questions over the net (just kidding)
> 4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
> possession of my soulB
> Since I'm starting this I will go first.
>
> 1) Cincy, Ohio.
>
> 2) Just graduated, and looking for a job. That means I fall within the "bum"
> category.
>
> 3) Music--playing and recording original stuff, collecting Smiths, the The,
> etc.
>
> 4) My 7" of "Controversial Subject." I like it because the music is so
> simple
> and Matt's voice is so awful. It has inspired me to try and create music of
> my own.
>
>
>
> JaY
>
>
>
>
------------------------------
From: David Cooper
To: The The
Subject: RE: discussion time...
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 03:01:20 -0500 (CDT)
Message-Id:
Howdy All...
1. Houston, Texas (no, the steers and queers thing is not completely true)
2. Prostitute basically, I'm a grad student in Immunology working at
NASA. I'm trying to find out why astonauts become immunosuppressed when
they travel in space...any suggestions?
3. Hobbies: Music, backpacking, Guiness, masterbation
4. "the The" possesion: Vinyl of "Burning Blue..." will always be special
5. In my disc changer (the one I don't have):
Spiritualized "Pure Phase" Touring the US now and a must see!!!
Lou Reed "Transformer" He started it all
Medeski, Martin, & Wood The way jazz should be played
Mark Burgess "Paradyning" (ex-Chameleon) can do no wrong
Joy Division Any album
David Cooper dcooper@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu
University of Texas GSBS1079@utsph.sph.uth.tmc.edu
MD Anderson Cancer Ctr Postpunk@aol.com
************** "...hold me, love me, tie me up, and drug me..."**************
------------------------------
From: Ray Finlay
Sender: mrvf100@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.R.V. Finlay)
To: David Cooper
cc: The The
Subject: RE: discussion time...
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 12:53:31 +0000 (GMT)
Message-ID:
What do people think of Song without an ending, the second track on
Burning Blue Soul. Its one of my favourites.
Ray
------------------------------
From: Peter Caira
To: Smitten123@aol.com
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:43:52 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
On Tue, 24 Oct 1995 Smitten123@aol.com wrote:
> This list has been kinda slow again recently,
> so I thought (even after being warned not to) that I would
> try and get something going. Everyone try and answer the following
> questions:
Okay...
> 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Well, how americocentric...anyway, I live in Windsor, Ontario,
Canada...it's right across the border from Detroit, Michigan in the US...
> 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
> etc)?
I'm an Honours Physics major at the university of Windsor...
> 3) Hobbies?
Playing drums in the Welders
(http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira/thewelders.html) and dinking
around on the internet...
> 4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
Gotta be Dusk...I love that record...no, wait, Soul Mining, no...Mind
Bomb...*grin*
Okay, how about if we add what other music we listen to? I'll start:
Tori Amos, the Kinks, the Talking Heads, the Tragically Hip, Dinosaur Jr,
the Rheostatics, Prince, REM, Midnight Oil, Fishbone, nine inch nails,
Bjork, Weather Report, and lots of other stuff I can't think of at the
moment...
Peter Caira
caira@server.uwindsor.ca
http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira
Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again
------------------------------
From: Ray Finlay
Sender: mrvf100@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.R.V. Finlay)
To: Smitten123@aol.com
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:22:48 +0000 (GMT)
Message-ID:
1/Cambridge uk
2/Student PhD cambridge university
3/diving tennis
4/Ticket from first the The concert I went to. Great memories.
Ray
------------------------------
From: Jan Wirken
To: Smitten123@aol.com
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 08:56:29 +0100 (MET)
Message-Id:
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"
On Tue, 24 Oct 1995 Smitten123@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
> 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Utrecht, The Netherlands
> 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
> etc)?
Equity Investment Analyst
> 3) Hobbies?
Quitar playing, Baseball
> 4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
Two demo's of Gun Sluts, I quess you know why
------------------------------
From: Jan Wirken
To: Smitten123@aol.com, infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: your mail
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:57:52 +0100 (MET)
Message-Id:
On Wed, 25 Oct 1995, Jan Wirken wrote:
> > > 1) Where (city, state) do you live?
> Utrecht, The Netherlands
> > 2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
> > etc)?
> Equity Investment Analyst
> > 3) Hobbies?
> Quitar playing, Baseball
> > 4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
> Two demo's of Gun Sluts, I quess you know why
>
>
Just kidding guys,
I only have one
------------------------------
From: jennifer frank thompson
To: Smitten123@aol.com
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:55:34 -0600 (MDT)
Message-ID:
I hope someone is nearby...
My name is Michael Shane Thompson
I live in Albuquerque, NM
I am a recent college grad who now is working as a disgruntal postal carrier.
Favorite The The item??? Get real, I could say "Infected" CD because the
whole album kicks major ass, or I could say "The The vs the World" VHS
because it is fun to watch, or I could say "Alive-Interviews and Music"
CD or "From Dusk til Dawn" LD because they are fairly rare. I don't
know, you all pick for me.
ShaneT
------------------------------
From: djelline@haverford.edu (David M. Jellinek)
To: ceylon@shadow.net
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 00:39:20 EDT
Message-Id:
>P.s. What other bands do Infectants listen to? Top 5 perhaps.
Not that these are a top five, but the seven in my changer now include:
RHCP Blood Suagr Sex Magik
Ani Defranco
hanky Panky
Garbage (new, to me)
Heather Nova (new)
Natalie Merchant (tigerlilly)
Ani Defranco--not a pretty girl
on the standby:
DM Faith and Devotion
Mind Bomb
Paula Cole (i love this disk--never makes it back to the rack)
Resevoir Dogs Sndtrack
Live--Throwing Copper
The Very best of Otis Redding
Portishead
The Cream of Clapton
Also like NIN, Sarah Mclaughlin, Tori--stuff like that...
Enough?
Dave
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The vice of our times indeed appears to be that nothing is so firm as that
it could not be uprooted, nothing so certain that it could not be disputed,
and nothing so sacred that it could not be violated."
Philippe Duplessis-Mornay, 1579
David Jellinek
djelline@haverford.edu
610-642-5511
------------------------------
From: Peter Caira
To: "David M. Jellinek"
cc: ceylon@shadow.net, infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:50:04 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
On Wed, 25 Oct 1995, David M. Jellinek wrote:
> Also like NIN, Sarah Mclaughlin, Tori--stuff like that...
^^^^^^^^^^^
Tori is my absolute favourite!!! (=
Peter Caira
caira@server.uwindsor.ca
http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira
Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again
------------------------------
From: matts@unm.edu (matt smith)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 09:21:59 -0600
Message-Id:
In reply to the madness brought on by Smitten:
I live in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
I am an Education grad student at the University of New Mexico and I work
at the UNM School of Medicine Computer Services.
Hobbies: Electronic music composition, writing, sports, computers
Favorite the The possession: Well, aside from the last five albums, I guess
the Slow Emotion Replay promo is the only possible rarity I own.
>Well, hello.
>
>This list has been kinda slow again recently,
>so I thought (even after being warned not to) that I would
>try and get something going. Everyone try and answer the following
>questions:
>
>1) Where (city, state) do you live?
>
>2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
>etc)?
>
>3) Hobbies?
>
>4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
>
>Since I'm starting this I will go first.
>
>1) Cincy, Ohio.
>
>2) Just graduated, and looking for a job. That means I fall within the "bum"
>category.
>
>3) Music--playing and recording original stuff, collecting Smiths, the The,
>etc.
>
>4) My 7" of "Controversial Subject." I like it because the music is so
>simple
>and Matt's voice is so awful. It has inspired me to try and create music of
>my own.
>
>
>
>JaY
Matt Smith http://www.unm.edu/~matts/smithshome.html
University of New Mexico School of Medicine Computer Services
------------------------------
From: marice@students.wisc.edu (elvis)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: discussion time...
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:16:30 +0700
Message-Id:
>>P.s. What other bands do Infectants listen to? Top 5 perhaps.
>
>Well, I've got a six disk changer (12 actually but my wife won't let me at
>one of the cartridges so ...) so my current top 5 plus Bonus Disk:
>
>======================================================
>===Garbage
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------------------------------
>===David Bowie - Outside
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------------------------------
>===Peter Murphy - Deep
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------------------------------
>===Elvis Costello - Armed Forces
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------------------------------
>===Thoughts of a Dry Brain in A Dry Season II compilation*
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------------------------------
>===Braveheart soundtrack
>======================================================
>
>* Dry Brain is a compilation CD of my own. Volume two consists of the
>following tracks:
>The Icicle Works - Out of Season
>Annie Lennox - Why
>Sarah McLaughlan - Ol' 55
>The Chameleons - Swamp Thing
>NIN - A Quiet Place
>Elvis Costello - Shipbuilding
>Talking Heads - Girlfriend is Better
>The The - Lung Shadows
>Stewart Copeland/Stan Ridgway - Don't Box Me In
>Yazoo - Midnight
>The Style Council - My Ever Changing Moods (Acoustic version)
>Joe Jackson - Not Here, Not Now
>The Icicle Works - Love is A Wonderful Colour
>
>The list goes on and on but Tom Snyder just started and you've gotta have
>priorites ...
>
>"There's a fine line between saying things that make sense ..." TMCM
>
>SRS
wow....i just did this for another list!
othr things i LURVE:
Tori Amos......mmmm...yummy!
Sarah Mclachlan....all..everything...she's awesome
Shudder To THink--pony express record---->incoherent and awesome and
terribly loud!
Sinead O'Conner...she got me into the the (kingdom of rain still makes me sob)
Hazel...mmmmmmm....yummy!
Afghan Whigs......
portishead!!!!!!!<---down and dirty mood music!!!
Pj Harvey.......aaargh! she's so awesome she hurts me!
Morphine....good lyrics..good music...sexy like Matt Johnson
yeah...that's about it...i have a lot more that i won't profess to owning
but like nonetheless (any other counting crows fans out there???)
- -elvis
------------------------------
From: Peter Caira
To: elvis
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: discussion time...
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:53:34 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID:
On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, elvis wrote:
> othr things i LURVE:
^^^^^
What the??? Hey, do you ever get on irc??? (I'm thinking #Tori)
> Tori Amos......mmmm...yummy!
I've said it once, I'll say it again: Tori's my favourite...(=
> but like nonetheless (any other counting crows fans out there???)
Yeah, I'm a counting crows fan...but what the hell has happened to them???
Peter Caira
caira@server.uwindsor.ca
http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira
Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again
------------------------------
From: marice@students.wisc.edu (elvis)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time...
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 13:00:45 -0500
Message-Id:
>>1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Madison , Wisconsin
>>2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer
>>programer, etc)?
student...part time cafe worker...musician...prostitute-->oh wait...i don't
get PAID for that!
>>3) Hobbies?
ummm...hmmm...ahem!
>
>>4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
DUSK and MIND BOMB.....i know all the words to all the songs on both albums
and they really really get to me emotionally...i'm very partial to mind
bomb because th first week of school, someone stole my copy of DUSK...*SOB*
>
>Also listening to:
>
the sound of my own voice rambling aimlessly on email...
- -molly "elvis" rice
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From: uthelene@ix.netcom.com (Sharkless girl )
To: infected@CS.uchicago.edu
Subject: location location location
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 17:36:00 -0700
Message-Id: <199510250036.RAA13175@ix.ix.netcom.com>
okay, maybe in the much anticipated tour in 96? sometime at leat in 96,
we should post where we are located. i volunteer to compile a list and
then post that list. hell, if i feel ambitious enough i may html it.
anyone?
ps. i live in minneapolis, but my heart belongs in NYC!
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: who am i? what am i doing here?
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 22:16:26 -0400
Message-ID: <951024221529_132125287@emout04.mail.aol.com>
i think i forgot the questions already...
1. mr. dave hirsch of rockville maryland, a hop skip and a jump from dc.
2. i have a silly office job that lets me yell at people all day, but i am
soon to be grad student.
3. hobbies? i buy a lot of stuff, complain about the debt i am in.
4. favorite the the thing might be the set list from cleveland show in 1994,
complete with magic marker corrections. or it might be something else, i
don't know. i really like the promo cassette of hanky panky i got a few
months before it came out, that is pretty neat.
oh, and i just came back from a banjo lesson. is that more than you wanted
to know?
------------------------------
From: ceylon@shadow.net
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: re: Band list
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 02:01:53 -0400
Message-Id: <199510250601.CAA21635@shadow.net>
I wrote:
>P.s. What other bands do Infectants listen to? Top 5 perhaps.
##I forgot to add my list and since Dave referred to seven, I'll extend my
list to the same:
In no specific order:
U2 (How cliche)
The House of Love
The Orb
Smiths
Oasis ( normally takes 3 albums, but here's an exception)
Catherine Wheel
Bob Marley
P.s. In case my original post did'nt state it...I was digging at top seven.
++++++++++++++++
Check in to religion...
I hear it's a rush
+++++++++++++++
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From: Higsby@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Band list
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 22:03:09 -0400
Message-ID: <951028220308_92127696@mail04.mail.aol.com>
I live in St. Louis, am a Media Supervisor in Advertising, hobbies are music,
reading and trying to learn c++, and my favorite the The possesion would be
my first the The possession, Dusk. (Please forgive me for being a the The
newbie).
My top five groups are:
Depeche Mode
The The
Cocteau Twins
The Beatles
They Might Be Giants
My favorite group with only one album is:
Garbage
I never reallly saw a lot of discussion about Darkness Falls. I never really
got too into this song. It seemed more like an album track (read 'filler')
than a one off aoundtrack song. It seemed almost incomplete to me somehow.
What do y'all think of it?
------------------------------
From: djelline@haverford.edu (David M. Jellinek)
To: Higsby@aol.com, infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Band list
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 95 22:55:11 EDT
Message-Id:
>My favorite group with only one album is:
>Garbage
>
>
>I never reallly saw a lot of discussion about Darkness Falls. I never really
>got too into this song. It seemed more like an album track (read 'filler')
>than a one off aoundtrack song. It seemed almost incomplete to me somehow.
> What do y'all think of it?
Agreed on both counts.
Dave
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The vice of our times indeed appears to be that nothing is so firm as that
it could not be uprooted, nothing so certain that it could not be disputed,
and nothing so sacred that it could not be violated."
Philippe Duplessis-Mornay, 1579
David Jellinek
djelline@haverford.edu
610-642-5511
------------------------------
From: Doug Chase (Volt Computer)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: FW: discussion time...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 00:30:54 PDT
Message-Id: <9510250843.AA06886@netmail2.microsoft.com>
- ----------
>From:
>
>1) Where (city, state) do you live?
Redmond, WA. Near Seattle. Used to live in Omaha / Lincoln NE. Just
moved here so I haven't figured out all the cool places to go and cool
shit to do.
>2) What is your profession (student, bum, prostitute, computer programer,
>etc)?
I guess I'm officially a "Software Test Engineer" but I don't really
feel like one. I was a student for a while, then a bum for a while
after that, and I just got this job in May. So I kind of still feel
more like a student / bum than a real, genuine contributing member of society.
>3) Hobbies?
Music and cars. I can't really play anything (but played guitar for a
while -- didn't everybody?) but I love listening to it. I collect The
The stuff, and although I'm getting quite a bit more stuff lately, I
know I'm nowhere near the level of some of the folks on here. But
probably my biggest hobby is racing. I used to race stock cars, but
quit that a few years ago and now I Autocross my 88 Fiero Formula on
most weekends.
>4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
Actually, as stupid as it sounds, it might be the T-shirt I got on the
DM tour. I like it because it's really simple and because it say
"lost, lustful, lonely" on the back which often describes me. As far
as musical stuff, it's tough to pick just one. I don't have anything
really extroardinary. I got the wooden box free. I guess I like some
of my old 12" singles the best. And the original covers of Soul Mining
and Infected are pretty cool. Like I said, I don't really have
anything *really* cool, and this is a tough crowd to impress. :-)
5) I guess we're adding other favorite bands on here now so mine would
be (in no particular order):
NIN (cliche, I know, but I still love 'em)
Hoodoo Gurus (although I think they peaked around Blow Your Cool)
Dire Straits
Matthew Sweet
Inspiral Carpets
Tori Amos
I dunno, it's hard to think of them when you want to...
That's all for now. Later...
Doug
------------------------------
From: Adam Scholder
To: smitten123@aol.com
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: lists
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 09:29:44 EDT
Message-Id: <9510251329.AA06641@widmeyer.com>
My answers:
1) Live in Arlington, Virginia
2) Work at a public affairs firm in DC, mostly doing work with education
reform and health care reform
3) Hobbies - reading, concerts and basketball
4) Not big into "prized possessions", but my 1st row ticket stub from the
"the The Vs. the World" show at the Theatre of the Living Arts in
Philadelphia is nice.
Other musical tastes include:
Talking Heads
U2
Neil Young
Sonic Youth
- --
------------------------------
From: KARMA VOWELL
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: questions
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:39:32 -0500 (CDT)
Message-Id: <951025153932.22680924@centum.utulsa.edu>
ok, in response to all those crazy questions....
1) I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma or Green River, Wyoming depending on the time
of year.
2)I'm an environmental policy major at the University of Tulsa.
3) My hobbies include listening to music, mountain biking, and drinking coffee.
4) favorite the The possession? If it's the The, it's a favorite.
5) Other music interests: James, A House, Erasure, Inspiral Carpets, the Cure
Meat Beat Manifesto....
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From: Norman Timberwolf
To: Infected
Subject: Answers
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:40:53 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id:
1. I live in Cleveland, but I'm currently going to OU down in Athens, the
garden spot of ohio (sarcasm)
2. Meteorology.
3. Hobbies include reading and writing sci-fi and regular fiction,
basketball, and babbling incoherently to my friends.
4. I guess my most prized the The posession is the cool tapes of
harder-to-find the The stuff that my former roomate (and the The nut
extrordinare) made for me.
5. Other musical intrests: The Smiths, XTC, Too Much Joy, The SHamen, Old
Depeche Mode, Moxy Frovous, Thomas Dolby, and the Orb.
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"Quad Erat Demonstradum baby... 'Oo! you speak French'"- Thomas Dolby
"I'm crippled by guilt, blinded by science, I've been waitin' for
tomorrow all of my life."- Matt Johnson
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From: James Bykowy
To: Norman Timberwolf
cc: Infected
Subject: Re: Answers
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:28:12 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
> 1. I live in Cleveland, but I'm currently going to OU down in Athens, the
> garden spot of ohio (sarcasm)
...
> 5. Other musical intrests: The Smiths, XTC, Too Much Joy, The SHamen, Old
> Depeche Mode, Moxy Frovous, Thomas Dolby, and the Orb.
So okay, I'm noticing, since we're all sharing our musical interests,
that there are several American the The fans that appreciate at least a
few Canadian bands. That's wonderful to see, because I'm constantly
hearing stories from my musician friends about how hard it is to break
into the American market (as a Canadian band). Apart from Barenaked
Ladies and Moxy Fruvous, and I guess maybe Alanis... what other Canadian
names are known or appreciated by the average American cross-section?
I guess a discussion along these lines is not one that should continue in
a the The fan group, so email me and we'll talk.
James
"Thirty days has September, October, June, and February...
All the rest have thirty-one, except my brother,
Who got six months."
- Peter Sellers as "Hrundi V. Bakshi", The Party
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From: Emiko E Cowell
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: discussion time
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 11:21:41 +1300
Message-id: <01HWW6XV8AMQKFF402@rivendell.otago.ac.nz>
Just answering the questions earlier..
1) I live in Dunedin, New Zealand
2) I am a Masters student at the world's most southern university
3) Hobbies? tramping ('hiking' to you Nth American types), photography, and
protecting vicious penguins.
4) Like 'Omy' of Auckland NZ on this list, I'm also so jealous of all this
TheThe possession talk. I have a t-shirt though, but I had to go to the other
side of the world for it, so to me its a prized possesion.
And other top fives musically would be:
3Ds
Pixies
Agnes Fink
Spearhead
Eurythmics (the older stuff)
That's it!
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From: AmyCal@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: discussion time
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 21:20:12 -0400
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this did not make it last night b/c i left the u off of uchicago. so here
goes:
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From: AmyCal@aol.com
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To: infected@cs.chicago.edu
Subject: discussion time
mill valley (may as well be san francisco) CA
advertising sales assistant for good housekeeping magazine (we sell ad space)
this is tough. seeing my favorite bands live, hitting bars in the city
(don't get me wrong, i'm not a complete lush this is just what we end up
doing on the weekends and random weeknights), just recently decided to make a
dress so sewing, browsing cd stores, keeping track of all my long distance
friends via email, blah blah blah.
instead of all time top 5 bands (this is incredibly difficult) i will tell
you what i have been listening to frequently lately: garbage (great album,
if anyone has any tour info please let me know), ben lee (a 12 year old from
australia who has a great new solo album with guest appearances from liz
phair and rebecca gates from the spinanes), kids soundtrack (speaks for
itself), let's see the violient femmes have been in and out, this is pathetic
i have to go look in my cd player to finish, it was superchunk b/c i just
went to see them but we will throw in the pixies b/c i love them.
here i am babbling again. enjoy.
dave, do you want that list of music stores or not? if you want it i have to
do something soon. i found it in my incoming flashmail but i'm sure it is
not available to send. if anyone knows how to download and attach it or
something like that let me know.
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From: AmyCal@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: discussion time
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 22:07:12 -0400
Message-ID: <951026220704_55532356@emout04.mail.aol.com>
i am sure that smitten is losing his/her mind with all these messages.
sending one to smitten and then ccing infected means that smitten gets two
of each. that is a mighty big batch of mail. forgive me if someone has
already said this. i have not waded through all of this yet. i can't spend
that much time in front of a computer after work.
just looking out for my infected friends.
amy
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From: AmyCal@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: nyc music stores
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 22:45:23 -0400
Message-ID: <951025224522_54538905@mail02.mail.aol.com>
it occurred to me today, over a beer naturally, that i could copy and paste
the list. so if anyone wants it let me know. dave you should have already
received it, just one more reason that i am the coolest person you know.
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From: Marcus-aka Mark
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: All about me
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 11:21:13 GMT0BST
Message-ID: <149E88C4962@fs1.art.man.ac.uk>
Where I live:
Depends really. Right now I am in Manchester England, but my
permanent residence is in Texas, about 30 miles outside of Houston.
Normally at this time of year, I am in Vermont.
Occupation:
Visiting student at the University of Manchester, studying
chemistry and classical studies.
Hobbies:
Bike riding (road or mountain), writing in my diary, buying CDs,
and enjoying the outdoors.
Favorite theThe possession:
It's a tie between the limited edition CD single of Love is
Stronger than Death, and the limited edition double CD single of Dogs
of Lust. It's not because they are limited edition (which is nice and
all), but because of the live tracks on them.
Other fave music:
1) the charlatans
2) Mozzer/The Smiths
3) the boo radleys
4) Matthew Sweet
5) Jamiroquai, Grant Lee Buffalo, Ultra Vivid Scene, Lush,
The Stone Roses, and Oasis
Signing off,
Mark
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From: VICKIE ELLIS
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: dusk to dawn video
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 12:29:20 -0700
Message-Id: <199510261626.MAA01929@moe.cc.emory.edu>
Hello infected people..
I'm new to the list so please forgive any redundant questions..I know
the Dusk to Dawn video was released in Europe but not in the
states..does anyone know where I can get a copy? I've talked to the guy
at Sony, etc..etc..Someone did tell me a beta version exists in the
states,but I need VHS, (of course)..Thanks alot..
Vickie
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From: 29DELCHER@CUA.EDU
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: List o list
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 15:30:32 -0400 (EDT)
Message-id: <01HWWFYQ43TE8WW3T7@cu4700.cua.edu>
d.d. here
i livein the grand u.s. national capitol of wash. d.c.
a graduate architecture student by day thriving musician by night
the the possession? besides my vinyl collection it would have to be my memory
of bumping into Matt in a new york cafe
hobby? living
other music
rem
frank black
pixies
unicycle
morphine
d.d.
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From: AmyCal@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: the list
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 21:39:20 -0400
Message-ID: <951026213919_90662093@emout05.mail.aol.com>
here it is. there are also some food recommendations. i unfortunately
didn't get to use it as my friend sent it to me after i had departed for new
york. well, maybe when i move there.....
well, enjoy it i hope some of you find it of some use. euthelene tell me
what you think of it.
The Unofficial Guide to Music in Greenwich Village and more: June 1994
compiled by Bob Gajarsky (gajarsky@pilot.njin.net)
The opinions are that of the author as well as people who
have helped contribute to the list. I have tried presenting the facts
as easily as possible. Comments are always welcome!
If you get off the PATH train (NJ to NYC subway car, NOT the
subway familiar to most in NYC) at 9th street, and walk east,
then south, then back west, you'll pretty much follow the directions
I've included in the guide. The avenues run north/south, streets run
east-west (West 8th street runs east/west, in other words). The subway
stop that best corresponds to this location is the West 3rd/4th and
Avenue of the Americas stop, also referred to as the Washington Square
Park stop.
Getting into New York by the P.A.T.H. is the easiest method
of public transportation. It costs $1 each way, and drops you at
Christopher St, between Hudson and Washington (far west side),
9th St. and Ave. of Americas (6th Avenue), 14th St. and Ave. of
Americas (6th Ave.), 23rd St. and Ave. of Americas, and 33rd St. and
Ave. of Americas (last and final stop). The first two are the only
ones you'll really need for this trip. New York City subway costs $1.25
for anywhere in the city.
Never mind the chain stores, here's the record buyer's guide:
Revolver Records - on West 8th St., between Ave. of
Americas and 5th Ave. Particularly a must-see for Beatles fans with
every sound, video and print item you might want. Used discs, lots
of books and magazines including foreign, out of print, back
issues. Good prices. One of the top 4 for "rare live recordings".
Located upstairs, on the 2nd floor, at about 45 West 8th, on
the north side of the street. Almost all bootleg discs are $20 each,
$40 for 2 CD sets. Considered by one person to have rude
employees - CASH ONLY
St. Marks Sounds - on St. Marks Pl. (as if it were East 8th St.)
between 3rd Ave. and 2nd Ave.) The best place. The widest selection
of used CD's anywhere. Used discs will run $5 to $9 as a rule, with
$9 going to "in" bands like the Smiths, Depeche Mode, some imports,
etc. There are two stores; both have used discs in them, but the other
(smaller) shop has new discs for $12 each. On the south side of the
street. They also still have (some) vinyl. No longer selling the $2.99
discs, but they've increased their jazz, country, international and
kids (!) music sections. Must-see. 16 St. Marks Pl. Also, note that
there are *2* St. Marks stores - not just one! One is on ground
level, the other is three doors east, and up a flight of stairs.
**** CASH ONLY ***
Smash Discs - somewhere betewen 2nd and 3rd Ave. on
St. Marks Pl. Mainly expensive. Has lots of hard-to-find things. It's
opposite St. Marks, and a few stores east of the next store, Venus.
In the summer, they sell some used discs in crates outside the store
at $3 each; these crates have often turned up very recent discs that
are of known acts.*** CASH ONLY ***
Venus Records - 13 St. Marks Pl. Has a
wide variety of used vinyl, and recently a LOT of used discs
and a decent supply of new stuff and imports. The LRIR that
they have can be found cheaper at other stores, but their
$3-5 section has plenty of well known artists and new releases
at dirt cheap prices. Also sometimes runs an ad in the Village
Voice for $3 off any $10 purchase
The Shop: 105 E. 9th St. A dance/techno store primarily
stocking vinyl, though there are some CDs. Lots of DJs floating
around, so bring plenty of attitude.
Proud A Ras --119 E. 7th St. Tiny store specializing in
reggae records, almost entirely vinyl. Pretty weak.
Thompson's Square Bookstore: 115 East 7th St. between
1st Ave. & Ave. A. The land of $4 used vinyl. All kinds of
music (R&B, soul, jazz, latin, pop, classical). Occasionally they
have rare records in mint condition and underpriced, but it's a
crapshoot.
Stooz Records: 122 East 7th St. between 1st Ave. &
Ave. A (almost directly across the street from Thompson's Square
Bookstore). A fairly new store carrying used cd's and vinyl.
Mostly the East Village alternative scene. Some good R&B,
obscure stuff. The $1 bin can occassionally bear gold. Decent
selections, good prices, but nothing *really* recent.
Downtown Music Gallery - 211 East 5th, between 3rd
and 2nd Avenues. I had originally said " Ignore this place -
it's out of the way, and they don't offer anything you can't
find at Rocks in your head, Rebel Rebel, or any place like that."
Other comments were as follows, and I'd suggest you make
your own decision, since two people added these comments.
1) While they do not carry everything a place like Rebel Rebel
does, they are a great store for obscure music that doesn't
really fit into the pop alternative scene, but more the artsy
crowd (ie., O Yuki Conjugate, Muslimgauze, After Dinner).
They also have major jazz cd's. A definite haven for obscure
vinyl. I used to hate this store when it first opened, but they
have really been getting good things for about a year now, and
their vinyl can really be awsome. I've found things that I never
knew existed, and I'm a serious record store hag.
2) Any list of NYC record stores, especially "Village" record
stores, should include this place. For experimental music, "new
music," weird jazz, etc., no other store in the city comes close.
Period. They also have FREE in-store performances by the likes
of Marc Ribot, William Hooker, and Elliott Sharp.
3) ANOTHER person has said that the person in charge - I believe
his name is Bruce - is one of the most knowledgable and helpful
people around, and is very able to cater to his specific customers'
wants. Also, he said that they also have "progressive" discs...
Dance Tracks: Located on East 3rd Street, between
2nd and 1st Avenues near the corner of 1st. Independent
Underground Deep House vinyl, and Loft-style dance classics.
Sometimes pricey with the collectors vinyl, but often a good
selection. Rather small low-stock operation in the same venue
as Vinyl Mania without the major record labels getting in the
way. No techno (1 lonely milk crate of used stuff). Music for
DJ's, producers and other people deep in the scene, not people
looking for "House Music" ) Plan on going in and spending
time to listen for something you like. Friday nights are hot.
Tower Records is on the corner of W. 4th Ave.
and Broadway. cd singles are priced at 8.99 or lower - that's
the best aspect of tower. You might also want to check out
Tower Video, Tower Books, but most importantly, the Tower
discount room, that has cutouts galore, and "Nice Price" discs.
According to one of the readers, "I think that you underate
the downtown Tower store. It is the absolute best jazz
source in the city. The range is incredible and the volume
overwhelming. For some reason, they really suck on "world"
music." Also, the other Tower stores are 1 block DIRECTLY
east of the main Tower store. Video Store: 383 Lafayette St.,
212-505-1166
Kim's Video - 144 Bleeker, to the west of Broadway.
An incredibly diverse grouping of videos, and a good diverse
selection of indie "alternative" stuff. There's also a Kim's
West, and a Kim's Video (and only video) on St. Marks at
2nd Ave.
Second Coming - on Sullivan, south of West 3rd St.
A good supply of "rare live recordings", whether on audio,
video, or compact disc. They also have a good supply of vinyl
for a wide variety of groups. The best book selection
(musically). Used discs are average priced here, and new
discs are overpriced. One of the top 4 on "live rare" recordings.
235 Sullivan
Generation Records - 210 Thompson St. one block
east of Second Coming. The BEST shop for "rare live
recordings", most of which are priced, on disc, at $20. The
regular disc prices aren't good; the used disc prices are fair.
But the selection of bootleg discs is outstanding, and can
satisfy most discriminating collectors. They will play discs,
too, if you want to verify before a purchase; just don't abuse
this privilege. 212-254-1100.
There's also a "Revolution Records" which is right near
these two above (Second Coming, Generation) stores and carries
a similar supply of music.
Nostalgia: 217 Thompson St. Across the street from
Generation Records. A store for vinyl jazz hounds. Seems
like a great selection of old jazz vocalists.
Bleecker Bob's - on West 3rd, roughly between
MacDougal and Ave. of Americas. Probably the best known
store in the village; don't believe the hype. Generally
over-priced vinyl, for some really rare stuff. They've also
got lots of tee-shirts here, but again, I like getting a lot for
my money. They don't give it to you. 118 W. 3rd St.,
212-475-9677
Rocks in your Head - on Prince St. (an east
west street 2 blocks south of Bleecker) between
MacDougal and Thompson, which are between Ave. of
the Americas and 5th Ave. Also has another store with a
similar title. It's got a solid selection of imports, and probably
the best selection of import CD-singles. Used discs are
average priced - $8 to $9, with a decent selection. Good
selection of vinyl, and of groups here; geared towards
alternative music. 157 Prince, 212-475-6729
Record Runner - Prince St. Top-notch selection
for import alternative (Depeche Mode, Erasure, Cure, Etc);
live discs and CD-singles. It is a little pricey, but selection
for specific artists is quite good.
Subterranean Records - on Cornelia, between
West 4th St. and Bleecker (bet 6th and 7th Avenues). A lot of
uh-huh and a little bit of oh-yeah, to twist a phrase. I wasn't
impressed by this place, and haven't been there in 2 years.
It's got imports, it's got used stuff, if you're in the
neighborhood, bop downstairs. But it's not a must go to.
5 Cornelia St.
Discorama - on West 4th St., between Jones and
Barrow (which are between 6th and 7th Avenues). Used disc
selection is moderate, with the prices ranging from $1-$6. A
wide variety of compilation discs are sold here in the used piles.
New discs will cost you $10 across the board, although the
selection isn't great. Bring in an ad from the Village Voice, and
you get one new disc for $9. Imports are incredibly high here;
$26-$30 is the going rate on most of the imports, although there
is good variety. CD singles are generally 5.49 each here. They
also carry a good selection of cassettes, and a wide variety of
12" singles. Must-see. Plus, it's two blocks north of the Pink
Pussycat, but on the other side of the street. Check for the sign
that says "New York's Compact Disc Headquarters". Also has
another, smaller store at at 60 Union Square East, at 16th St one
block east of Broadway
Triton - on Bleeker, between Cornelia and Carmine
(which are between 6th and 7th Avenues). One block south of
Discorama; new discs here are $10, when they have them. Not
the best selection, new releases often don't arrive until 2 weeks
after their release date. Not much used; some rare material (DJ
mixes of stuff). So/so store.
Zapp Records. 258 Bleecker at Cornelia. 212-366-4958.
Specializes in imports and "rare live recordings." Prices pretty
decent, the average price for a IRLR ("imported rare live
recording") is $20. Good selection as well-- mostly "alternative"
some techno, pop, rock. They also have a LOT of british
compilation discs; I noticed that the new British pop
compilations were there, shortly after UK release.
Vinylmania - One store, on Carmine, between Bleecker,
Bedford, and 7th Ave.) This used to be the best place for dance
music, 12", etc. but ever since the consolidation, it's been much
harder to find specific things, and the staff is generally
overworked trying to cater to their customer dj's. You may have
to pay for the rare material, but this is where DJ's have been
coming for years. A lot of import 12" singles here; an occasional
good buy on the used discs, but not much. 60 Carmine St.,
212-924-7223
Rebel Rebel - on Bleecker, between 7th Ave. and
Christopher, I believe, on the north side of the street. It's a
small shop, but if it's out in England, they have it. $24 is the
normal price on an import disc, which is steep for me (used
disc prices are quite high - $10 is the norm), but the selection
is unbeatable. Plenty of hard to get stuff from overseas can
be found here, and they're well stocked on all the magazines
>from England. They also have a lot of American discs, as
well. For those who want to stay in touch with the new "in"
band from the other side of the ocean. 319 Bleeker St., 212-939-0770
Decadance, 119 Christopher St. Hard to find dance
and 12" tracks at high prices.
BPM, 334 Bleeker St. Hard to find dance and 12" tracks.
OTHERS:
Gryphon on 72nd St., G & A also on 72nd St. - both
stores specialize in classical vinyl. Highish prices but good
quality. G&A has a good selection of soundtracks and
"vocalists". Billie Holiday bootlegs G&A (!), as well as
soundtracks from 2001: and Mission. Gryphon was very
cramped! You're best off having a list of specific "wants"
at both of these stores. G&A caters to audiophiles, and
has a bunch of "No Casual Browsing" signs!
The Jazz Record Center - Supposed to have a great
selection of used jazz material. 236 West 26th St., between
7th and 8th Avenue, on the 8th floor. Only open from Tuesday-
Saturday, 10-6. Phone: 212-675-4480
Academy, on 18th St. This store has a decent if not
huge selection of popular music, excellent selections of
classical/opera. Not only did this store have excellent
quaility vinyl, but also it had excellent prices. They have a
number of near mint albums for only $2! [CSN&Y So Far, e.g.,
but tons of classical stuff]. You can move around in this store
and it's well-organized. It has a very high turnover and only
accepts cash and checks.
Entertainment Warehouse -835 Broadway (at 13th St.)
Big selection of used CDs and videos (and just a block from the
Strand used bookstore!) Musically, they're strongest in pop and rock.
Everything's kind of mixed in together, so alternative fans will have
to wade through a lot of M.C. Hammer CDs. But there are
occasional gems in there. Prices are generally $9-$10; however,
they have a few boxes of stuff outside that are $4 each and include
recent promo material and cd's that are out of print for many years.
I noticed several long out-of-print CD's inside as well.
J & R Music World -- (Park Row (an access street to the
BKLYN bridge) , directly south across the street from City Hall
Park) One person says, "Don't be deceived by the mega-store
looks of the J & R complex. (They havea record, stereo, jazz
and computer outlet). This place is actually the only one of its
kind, and it is one of New York's finest institutions. Prices are
decent in the record venue, and the selection is quite good
Tower has lately been out of stock of lots of alternative bands,
but J & R has them, for less. But most importantly: THE JAZZ
OUTLET. A whole store devoted to this American art form.
Prices vary, but tend to be very reasonable --- staff is very
helpful. For the serious jazz collector, this store is a MUST
visit. (some vinyl, mostly CD) {Bob's note: J&R sends out a
catalog for music. If you're interested in calling for it, it's
at 212-238-9000. I think their prices are roughly the same as
Tower and definitely higher than Noteworthy}
Oh, the Strand bookstore is one of the world's largest
used bookstores. They have most current books at half cover
price, because they are reviewer's copies, etc. And lots of old
books, too. You could spend a day just in the store alone. It's hot
and slimy inside, so you can imagine how people felt in stores in
1910 while checking for books that ARE that old. On Broadway and
13th St; also, a (MUCH SMALLER and virtually insignificant)
store down in South Street Seaport
Skyline, right across the street from Academy. Large
selection of pop, but extremely difficult to get at due to cramped
aisles and layout. Quality seemed variable.
Finyl Vinyl, 89 2nd Ave bet. 5th and 6th. Specializes in
50's and 60's rock. Excellent quality, with high-ish but reasonable
prices. (Kind of a rough neighborhood, too.) Found some
treasures here such as a mint Burning Spear "Social Living"
& a mint Van Morrison. Takes credit cards.
Second Hand Rose's - on 6th Ave. (525), between
11th and 12th St, I think. A grungy store, that has used discs
at moderate prices, but I don't go up there because of the dirty
atmosphere associated with it. The vinyl catalog seems deep, but:
they have a couple boxes of used cd's outside, for $4-6. inside,
the used cd's are $9 and $10 for lots of bad cd's. New stuff is way
overpriced. Not recommended for cd buyers.
(So-and-so's?) Vinyl Museum: Ave. A between
St. Marks and 9th St. Pricey used records. They don't do much
business, so they might not be around for long, but they have
some nice collectors' items on the wall.
Footlight Records: 113 East 12th Street (212)533-1572
One reader says "THE definitive place for Showtunes, Soundtracks,
Cast Albums, and Cabaret and Comedy stuff in the Country, if
not the world. They do have an impressive selection of stuff
>from all over the world (want the Dutch recording of WestSide Story?)
and have a very knowledgeable staff. They do do mail order.
The prices, while a bit high, is reasonable, specially if you
consider that a lot of their stuff can't be had from anywhere else
in the US. The only other place that can even attempt to compare
is Colony records in Time Square, and they can charge up to 2-3 times
as much! FootLight also has a good used CD section, not as cheap
as some others, but again often has great selections, if this is the
kind of music you fancy. Vinyl hunters should also check it out.
NYCD - located on Amsterdam between 80th and 81st.
Not in the village by any means. Here's what one person had to say
about it. " If it reminds you of Smash when you walk in, that's because
it's run by two former Smash employees who simply stole the idea and
took it uptown. New music: boring, dull, heavy on the classic rock kind
of stuff. Limited jazz selection (surprising given the locale) and hardly
and rap. Used had a little more alternative selections, but even
worse variety for the non-rock stuff. The selling point is the prices on
the used stuff. Smash always runs $10 for used discs, Sounds seems to
aim for $9. These guys are at $8 at the top end, $6 on a lot of stuff.
E.G. I haven't seen Radiohead or Stereo MCs EVER in a used store.
These guys had both for $8. {ED. note: I've seen them at Sounds
for $8 each as well} Basehead was $7. An older Rhino collection
was $6. This is definitely an "if your in the neighborhood" stop,
not a destination in and of itself. But if you're dropping buy Zabars
and the giant Barnes & Noble..."
The best summary? It's the only store of its kind uptown.
And in Hoboken, Pier Platters is two blocks away from
the P.A.T.H. station, on Newark St.'s (1 store - the other
closed between Hudson St. and Washington St.) The best
selection of U.S. and unknown bands, and the place that helps
keep Hoboken bands alive. On any given day, you might see
Donna Croughn (Tiny Lights), Otis Ball, or other musicians
behind the counter, selling records. It's gone downhill in the
past 2 years, but it's still better than most stores.
All That Jazz: 224 Hudson St., Hoboken. New store,
opened in January about three block from Pier Platters. New
and used CDs, primarily jazz, as the title indicates. Lousy
selection, hardly any stock.
Danny Fields, NYC agent (Iggy Pop, etc) has put
together a walking tour of rock and roll sights in New York City.
Free copies of the tour map, an eight-page guide to rock
landmarks by Mr. Fields are avialable by writing to:
Tanquerary New York Rock-androll Trivia Map, PO box 511,
Gibbstown NJ 08027
Music 'zines? Well, none of these places carry
Consumable 'Zine (yet - drop a line to me at
gajarsky@pilot.njin.net to subscribe to the electronic
version), but there's 4 places. Two are the
aforementioned Tower Records and Rebel Rebel. One is a
place on the corner of 6th Ave and West 12th, which just
has tons of magazines. The other is See Hear, 59 E 7th St.,
just east of 3rd Ave.
Want to go to someplace to eat? Cucina Stagionale,
on the corner of Jones St. and Bleecker, offers the best Italian
food I've ever had at incredibly cheap prices; meat lasagna,
for example, at $7.95. French waiter style service, and a nice
internal environment. You may have to wait to get in, but it's
well worth it. Cucina di Pesce (87 East 4th) is a similar
restaurant on the far east side.
Joe's Pizza (corner of Bleecker, Carmine, and Ave.
of Americas) has really good pizza, it's the best I've had in
the city. John's Pizza (across from Cucina) gets all the press,
but I like Joe's a lot better.
And Washington Square Park is a nice place to relax.
Street performers are usually in the park, and it's got a lot of
people. You'll be offered drugs ("Smoke?") just like everyone
else; don't think you're so special.
Without sounding stuck up, New York offers the
best selection of used music anywhere in the northeast.
The stores that I rate as just so-so would probably be
considered great elsewhere; I was told that Second Coming
in New York is much better than the one in Boston, which is
"great", but I consider it (in terms of used discs) nothing
special. One reader says that it is well worth a trip up
>from D.C. Hope your record buying trip is a good one!
Another place for getting imports - if you don't want
to leave your computer chair - is Ear/Rational
(ear-rational@xmission.com). His name's Dave, and he tends
to have lower prices than any import shop I've been in. Drop
him a line and ask him for his catalogue; I'm merely a satisfied
customer. Include in the subject line "SUBSCRIBE" so it gets
automatically returned to you.
====================================================
Other food places which come recommended from readers:
Tibetan Kitchen; Bod pa'i thab tshang --- 444 3rd Avenue
Around the Clock diner-one block uptown from St. Marks
Place-right by one of the NYU dorms-great food/atmosphere/price.
There is a chain of three pubs, all within two blocks of
each other: The Slaughtered Lamb, Jack the Ripper, and Jekyl and
Hyde that are a unique experience to go to. The Slaughtered Lamb
is right across the street (almost) from the Pink Pussycat. This place
has got such a great atmosphere to it and a good-and big- selection
of beers/ales. Definitely a place to check out
Other food places? Pluck U. serves chicken wings,
Peculier Pub on Bleeker has one of widest beer selections
anywhere, Bagels on the Square, also on Bleeker has Bagels
the size of ... godzilla, and enough flavored cream cheeses to
rival Haagen Dazs. Of course,the place is peppered with
cafes and stuff, where one can sit, drink, and mull existentialist
thought over. Or check out your recent purchases.
Also recommended - but in the far East Village, around
1st and 2nd Ave. On opposite corners of 4th St. and 1st Ave are
Cuccina di Pesce and Frutti di Mare, virtual clones of Cuccina
Stagionale, but a little cheaper, and less crowded. A but
further uptown is the Indian Food section, and along 1st Ave
are a string of Polish and other enthnic food places. Elvie's, a
Filipino restaurant on 1st and 13th. Really good food,
really cheap, too.
In the west village, on Hudson, a couple blocks (2?) north
of Christopher St. and on the western side of the street, is
Taylor's. It's a little food and dessert place. I've never tried the
foods, but the desserts are heavenly. Check out the mudslides and
the zebras.
====================================================
The author wishes to thank several people who have
helped put this together: Eric Porter, Michael Schuster, Andrew Russ,
Stan Janet, Dave Pirmann, Steve Portigal, John Higgins, Dick Locke, and many
others. I gave up listing all names because it would take up
more space than this list! Thanks for your help. Feel free to post/copy
this anywhere,on any network, as long as the entire thing remains intact.
------------------------------
From: psj@re.dk
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Hanky Panky
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:27:42 +0200
Message-Id: <199510271425.AA21806@ic1.ic.dk>
Greetings fellow infectants!
I am relatively new to this list and so I don't know whether it has been=20
discussed before, but can anyone out there get their head around this album=
?=20
What is going on! Crap or what. I, for one, am not interested in hearing=20
Matt indulge his ridiculous penchant for Hank Williams, especially after=20
parting with my hard-earned cash (cash anyway) for the privilege. I=20
sincerely hope he/they never pull another stunt like that. Comments?
Paul
------------------------------
From: Hirschdave@aol.com
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Hanky Panky
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 15:43:54 -0500
Message-ID: <951029154353_57532178@emout04.mail.aol.com>
i am a huge hank williams fan, thought hanky was the best since infected.
none of that crap like lonely planet or beaten generation. my opinion only,
so leave me alone, i have read too many stupid messages about beaten
generation to care anymore.
by the way, i really like darkness falls. creepy and brooding, with the riff
from kashmir running through the damn thing, i am pretty impressed by it, so
what the hell.
other crap i like (this week, only recent finds)--grifters, cordelia's dad,
long fin killie, mercury rev, iris dement, geraldine fibbers, old springsteen
demos, lyle lovett bootleg, edsel, palace bros. (in concert tonight), other
shit.
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From: mvanderl@ozemail.com.au (Michael Vanderlaan)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Hanky Panky
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 23:02:02 GMT
Message-ID:
I too can't say that H.P. is my favourite T.T. album.
However, for a man with such emotional intensity as M.J., I don't think that
it's so unreasonable for him to honour his idols in such a way. I get the
feeling that it means more to him that he expresses himself, rather than simply
pleasing the masses.
Mick
> Greetings fellow infectants!
> I am relatively new to this list and so I don't know whether it has been=20
> discussed before, but can anyone out there get their head around this album=
> ?=20
> What is going on! Crap or what. I, for one, am not interested in hearing=20
> Matt indulge his ridiculous penchant for Hank Williams, especially after=20
> parting with my hard-earned cash (cash anyway) for the privilege. I=20
> sincerely hope he/they never pull another stunt like that. Comments?
>
> Paul
------------------------------
From: James Bykowy
To: psj@re.dk
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Hanky Panky
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 23:16:07 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
> I am relatively new to this list and so I don't know whether it has been
> discussed before, but can anyone out there get their head around this album?
> What is going on! Crap or what. I, for one, am not interested in hearing
> Matt indulge his ridiculous penchant for Hank Williams, especially after
> parting with my hard-earned cash (cash anyway) for the privilege. I
> sincerely hope he/they never pull another stunt like that. Comments?
Y'know, it usually takes me a while to get used to each album of his.
They all tend to grow on me. the only one I instantly liked was Soul
Mining. I tell ya, Mind Bomb took a while to get my head around, but I
love it like the rest now. So I'm expecting this will be the continued
trend with HP, however, I must admit that the album's premise has me at a
disadvantage. I'm not much for Hank Williams.
The thing I *REALLY* wonder about is this rumoured album of hymns he's
planning to do? I may have to stretch my appreciation of the man to
enjoy that album, but time will tell.
James Bykowy
"Thirty days has September, October, June, and February...
All the rest have thirty-one, except my brother,
Who got six months."
- Peter Sellers as "Hrundi V. Bakshi", The Party
------------------------------
From: sandman
To: psj@re.dk
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Hanky Panky
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 23:55:21 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id:
On Fri, 27 Oct 1995 psj@re.dk wrote:
>
> Greetings fellow infectants!
> I am relatively new to this list and so I don't know whether it has been
> discussed before, but can anyone out there get their head around this album?
> What is going on! Crap or what. I, for one, am not interested in hearing
> Matt indulge his ridiculous penchant for Hank Williams, especially after
> parting with my hard-earned cash (cash anyway) for the privilege. I
> sincerely hope he/they never pull another stunt like that. Comments?
>
> Paul
>
HEY!!!!!
And a happy howdy y'all-or whatever. Anyway, I thought this album
was brilliant. I thought it was pretty brave of Matt to do such a
commercially risky album. And i am very impressed at how he was able to
take these H. W. staples and make them uniquely The The-esque. I thought
it was maybe a way for Matt to break through the genreficaion bullsh*t
that record lables seem to encourage.(ie. my band is better than your
band, or any music that isn't metal-rap-"alternative"-whatever sucks.)
But my favorite elements that were brought to the album were the
creepy stalker like feeling on Honky Tonkin' and the desperate feel of
some of the other tracks.
Lastly i would like to re-iterate on the risk Matt took on the
album. It's pretty obvious that H.W. fans won't like the album. And also
that Marr fans probably won't either. Nor would those who aren't into
country music. But to me this sounds like any other later The the album.
Well that's it, opinion. take it for what it's worth.
PEACE,
jb
------------------------------
From: Yukari Tanimoto
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Hanky Panky
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 10:01:39 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID:
Hi all. I just wanted to agree with jb here. I think Hanky Panky was a
really creative idea, VERY risky, and damn good. One of my friends is a
HUGE hank williams fan (ummm...we don't agree too much musically). In
any case, I sat him and another Hank Williams fan down to listen to HP
and they actually thought it was REALLY good. Of course it doesn't beat
"their" hank, but it's damn good. The story behind Hank Williams life
that my friend told me about is very tragic. It put the songs and lyrics
into a completely different perspective. That's all. Any feedback?
> And a happy howdy y'all-or whatever. Anyway, I thought this album
> was brilliant. I thought it was pretty brave of Matt to do such a
> commercially risky album. And i am very impressed at how he was able to
> take these H. W. staples and make them uniquely The The-esque. I thought
> it was maybe a way for Matt to break through the genreficaion bullsh*t
> that record lables seem to encourage.(ie. my band is better than your
> band, or any music that isn't metal-rap-"alternative"-whatever sucks.)
> But my favorite elements that were brought to the album were the
> creepy stalker like feeling on Honky Tonkin' and the desperate feel of
> some of the other tracks.
> Lastly i would like to re-iterate on the risk Matt took on the
> album. It's pretty obvious that H.W. fans won't like the album. And also
> that Marr fans probably won't either. Nor would those who aren't into
> country music. But to me this sounds like any other later The the album.
> Well that's it, opinion. take it for what it's worth.
>
>
>
> PEACE,
> jb
>
------------------------------
From: marice@students.wisc.edu (me)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: hi..allow me to introduce myself
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 13:08:33 -0500
Message-Id:
hi. im new...don't beat me!
um...my name is anywhere from elvis, to me to molly...and i LURVE the the!!!!
so...not to sound culturally illiterate or anything, but when's the new
album coming out...about Hanky Panky> :)
smiles and huggies!
me.
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From: djelline@haverford.edu (David M. Jellinek)
To: psj@re.dk
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Hanky Panky
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 14:23:13 EDT
Message-Id:
Well, considering my random program thingy just landed on HP, on I Can't
Escape from you, I have to completely disagree.
I like this CD a lot; although many of my friends say "what the fuck is
that?", I defend it. Yes, its weird hearing Matt sing country, but give it
time; it grew on me.
Anyhow. I'd like to see him do the proposed Robert Johnson disk, though I
have more reservations about Lennon/Beatles.
Dave
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The vice of our times indeed appears to be that nothing is so firm as that
it could not be uprooted, nothing so certain that it could not be disputed,
and nothing so sacred that it could not be violated."
Philippe Duplessis-Mornay, 1579
David Jellinek
djelline@haverford.edu
610-642-5511
------------------------------
From: "Corbett J. Klempay"
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Discussion time...
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 22:16:22 -0400
Message-id: <95Oct27.221629edt.2552-5@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
My name is Corbett Klempay. I'm currently a freshman majoring in
computer science and pre-med at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, MD.
I'm from Grand Blanc, MI (if it sounds familiar to you, it may be due to the
PGA's Buick Open, which is played on the other end of my neighborhood).
Grand Blanc is about 10 minutes south of Flint (where GM has its world HQ)
and 30-50 minutes north of Detroit (30 to the suburbs Bloomfield Hills,
Birmingham, and the surrounding areas). I also lived in Wichita Falls, TX,
for about 10 years (age 2-12).
Hobbies? Right now, I haven't much time for anything (the workload
here sucks). However, I am a member of Hopkins' swim team (a sprint
butterflyer), so I obviously like to swim. Nowdays, I'd have to say that my
other favorite pastime would have to be sleeping.
I tried to think of my favorite The The CD before writing this, but
decided that there isn't one answer. It depends on my mood. Ask me my
favorite on any given day, and it could be a totally different answer then
on the day before. So, basically, I love them all (although I'd have to say
that BBS and Hanky Panky are my least favorites).
When it comes to my other musical interests, some of them include:
Morphine
The The (Morphine & The The may be my two most favorite)
PJ Harvey
Sarah McLachlan
311
Gene
Morrissey
The Smiths
Buffalo Tom
Sloan
New Order
The Charlatans
54.40
Front 242
Alanis
Living in a Tube (a cool Hopkins based band, Phish-y in nature, but
a little less mellow, harder, and upbeat. Maybe it's their sax that livens
it up, I don't know.)
Question: THETHEXXX says Gun Sluts will be in 1996, but does anyone have a
clue as to when in '96? Even a ballpark guess?
-Corbett J. Klempay
The Johns Hopkins University
cklempay@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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From: Smiley Boy
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Discussion time....
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 17:34:32 -0600 (MDT)
Message-Id:
Here be your answers
1) Like Superfly, I live in Calgary, Alberta Canada. One of the larger
cities in Canada, yet still unable to attract any good big bands because
our only big venue has some stupid noise limit law.
2) I am a professional student (or prostitute -- the two seem synonymous)
majoring in Early Childhood Education (of all things), but on the lighter
side I am also half way to a degree in English (although you probably
wouldn't know it from the mass amounts of typos and grammatical errors I
make).
3) I really enjoy listening to music (of course), back country hiking,
taking a brew at the local pub, and I dabble in the realm of poetry.
4) My favourite possession would have to be either my "Gravitate to Me"
box set, or copy of "Cold Spell Ahead" -- just because Hot Ice is a fine,
fine tune.
5) Other bands include (for your sake I'll limit it to 6)
- -The Levellers (see quote below)
- -The Pogues
- -Rage Against the Machine
- -Spirit of the West (only the older material though)
- -Furnaceface (a Canadian indy band -- and a damn good one at that)
- -Tristan Psionic (another Canadian indy band)
-Smiley Boy :)
_________________________________________________________________________
If I could choose the life I pleased
Then I would be a boatman
Along the canals and the rivers free
No hasty words are spoken
My only law the river breeze
Would take me to the open seas
-The Levellers
_________________________________________________________________________
------------------------------
From: Smiley Boy
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Tape x-change
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 19:01:33 -0600 (MDT)
Message-Id:
Hey all,
I have noticed that there are a lot of different musical tastes
out there in Infected-land. I thought it would be cool if we could set
up a little mix tape exchange. You know, fill a 90 min tape with a few
cool tunes and send it to a person who will send you something in
return. Ideally, I'd like this to work on a "you show me yours and I'll
show you mine" basis, so no one gets shafted. I will make a list of
the names of those willing to sign up.
If you are interested, e-mail me directly
(sakeedwe@acs.ucalgary.ca) - (don't post it here) with the subject "tape
x-change." Include your mailing address and e-mail address. I will
compile a list and send it to all those interested. I will wait about a
month before sending the list out, so you have until then to sign up.
I guess I'll send a few of the "rules" out with the list. I hope
that all made sense. E-mail me back with questions, comments etc...
-S.B. :)
_________________________________________________________________________
If I could choose the life I pleased
Then I would be a boatman
Along the canals and the rivers free
No hasty words are spoken
My only law the river breeze
Would take me to the open seas
-The Levellers
_________________________________________________________________________
------------------------------
From: Joonas Virtasalo
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: Top 10 albums
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 11:57:14 +0200
Message-Id: <199511290958.LAA19109@jazz>
At 04:50 28.11.1995 -0330, you wrote:
>Hey, another Nits fan! Picked up "Giant, Normal, Dwarf" in a used bin here
in >St. John's and loved it; have "Ting" and "Da Da Da" now as well. Do you
have >any of their older releases?
I also have "Ting" single, but thats all.
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Joonas Virtasalo, Satakunta Polytechnic, ADP-Department ! !
joonas@jazz.cc.spt.fi, http://www.spt.fi/~joonas ! !
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
From: "Paul Spiers"
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Favourite Possession
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 17:24:27 +0000
Message-Id: <199510291626.QAA15443@oberon.wintermute.co.uk>
> From: Steven W Hill
> > >4) Favorite "the The" possesion, and why?
>
> If you can stand the gloating, my early 7" singles mainly. Mind Bomb tour
> program, Infected book. First pressing Burning Blue Soul. and so on. Why?
> To gloat with, I guess. Actually my real favorite possession is the small
> The The logo pin that came with the "Beat(en) Generation" 12" box. I
> bought two boxes so I could wear the pin and not worry about losing it.
> Good thing I did, because I certainly lost it. :(
>
The pin badge that came with the box set of Beat(en) Generation was
also my favourite The The possession. However being a poor student at
the time I could only afford one set.
It went with me everywhere I went, job interviews, Dentist, shopping,
until one night in a bar in Aberdeen I made the mistake of leaving my
jacket on a coat rack and returned to find it had been stolen. I was
in mourning for months afterwards. I now have an 'Armoury Show'
badge but it just isn't the same. :-(
Anyone care to sell me their one??
Paul
------------------------------
From: James Bykowy
To: Paul Spiers
cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Favourite Possession
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 23:06:59 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
> The pin badge that came with the box set of Beat(en) Generation was
> also my favourite The The possession. However being a poor student at
> the time I could only afford one set.
>
> It went with me everywhere I went, job interviews, Dentist, shopping,
> until one night in a bar in Aberdeen I made the mistake of leaving my
> jacket on a coat rack and returned to find it had been stolen. I was
> in mourning for months afterwards. I now have an 'Armoury Show'
> badge but it just isn't the same. :-(
>
> Anyone care to sell me their one??
Um, does anybody seem to know that the official info/fan club place in
Sherman Oaks, CA has a pile of stuff to sell? The mailing address is
printed on the inside of HP and Dusk, and I think you can get a list of
items off the internet site as well. They sell pins for US$5. If I can
every pay off my bloody Visa I'll get a bunch of stuff. Or maybe I'll
just buy it on Visa...
James Bykowy
"Thirty days has September, October, June, and February...
All the rest have thirty-one, except my brother,
Who got six months."
- Peter Sellers as "Hrundi V. Bakshi", The Party
------------------------------
From: marice@students.wisc.edu (elvis)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: hi
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 18:00:26 -0600
Message-Id:
hey...i hate to sound pretentious and unruly, but Hanky Panky came out
months ago....where's thew new shit???? It was an OK album...i didn't like
it as much becuase i like Matt Johnson's lyrics before i usually like the
music (not that the music is BAD...it's very slinky and sexy and rockin'
and i wouldn't have found them without that) BUT what REALLY got me into
the the was the lyrics...the sensitivity and heartspoken madness of
everyday life you find there.......that is why i didn't really get into
hanky panky....i wanted to hear Johnson's lyrics.......I"M STILL WAITING,
BOYS....WHERE IS IT?!?!?!
okay. tell me i'm ignorant now...i think i need that.
- -elvis
------------------------------
From: Doug Chase (Volt Computer)
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: hi
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 95 16:16:21 PST
Message-Id: <9510300130.AA13379@netmail2.microsoft.com>
Uhhh, sometime in 1996. There, now you know as much as the rest of us. :-)
Doug
- ----------
>From: elvis
>To:
>Subject: hi
>Date: Sunday, October 29, 1995 6:00PM
>
>hey...i hate to sound pretentious and unruly, but Hanky Panky came out
>months ago....where's thew new shit???? It was an OK album...i didn't like
>it as much becuase i like Matt Johnson's lyrics before i usually like the
>music (not that the music is BAD...it's very slinky and sexy and rockin'
>and i wouldn't have found them without that) BUT what REALLY got me into
>the the was the lyrics...the sensitivity and heartspoken madness of
>everyday life you find there.......that is why i didn't really get into
>hanky panky....i wanted to hear Johnson's lyrics.......I"M STILL WAITING,
>BOYS....WHERE IS IT?!?!?!
>
>okay. tell me i'm ignorant now...i think i need that.
>-elvis
>
>
------------------------------
From: Madhatter
To: elvis
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: THE SCREEN SAVER!!!
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 21:31:39 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id:
I just saw an ad in this month's Spin magazine from Sony magazine. They
have listed a THE screen saver, and a Sony Web Sight, which I have yet to
contact because I copied down the wrong address which I brought to work
(that's where I am right now) I have a Mac at home, and they say it's
for IBM, but maybe (hopefully) they'll make one for my computer too.
Joel
P.S. If someone wants the web sight, I can post it tomorrow...let me know.
------------------------------
From: Steven W Hill
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: THE SCREEN SAVER!!!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 10:26:27 CST
Message-Id: <9510301626.AA14597@harper.cc.il.us>
> I just saw an ad in this month's Spin magazine from Sony magazine. They
> have listed a THE screen saver, and a Sony Web Sight, which I have yet to
The The - Discography v1.4 (13 October 1995)
======================================
MULTIMEDIA
"I Saw The Light" Music Screener (550 Music/Epic BSS 61119)
It's a 3.5" diskette with screen saver based around the video.
List price is around US$10-$11
======================================
- -shill
- --
[][] [][] Steve Hill, Network Communications Specialist, 708-925-6273
[] [] [] Harper College, 1200 W Algonquin Rd, Palatine IL 60067-7398
----shill@harper.cc.il.us----http://www.harper.cc.il.us----
[] [] [] "Mostly harmless."
[][] [][] personal:(http://www.idis.com/shill/index.htm)
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From: Peter Caira
To: Madhatter
cc: elvis , infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: THE SCREEN SAVER!!!
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 23:16:32 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID:
On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, Madhatter wrote:
> I just saw an ad in this month's Spin magazine from Sony magazine. They
> have listed a THE screen saver, and a Sony Web Sight, which I have yet to
> contact because I copied down the wrong address which I brought to work
> (that's where I am right now) I have a Mac at home, and they say it's
> for IBM, but maybe (hopefully) they'll make one for my computer too.
Cool! I've got a theTHE screen saver too....for after dark for mac...and
a theTHE wallpaper file for system 7.5's desktop patterns control
panel...it's cool! if anyone wants it, just lemme know...
Peter Caira
caira@server.uwindsor.ca
http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira
Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again
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From: Madhatter
To: Peter Caira
Cc: elvis , infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: THE SCREEN SAVER!!!
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 00:44:06 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id:
On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, Peter Caira wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, Madhatter wrote:
>
> > I just saw an ad in this month's Spin magazine from Sony magazine. They
> > have listed a THE screen saver, and a Sony Web Sight, which I have yet to
> > contact because I copied down the wrong address which I brought to work
> > (that's where I am right now) I have a Mac at home, and they say it's
> > for IBM, but maybe (hopefully) they'll make one for my computer too.
>
> Cool! I've got a theTHE screen saver too....for after dark for mac...and
> a theTHE wallpaper file for system 7.5's desktop patterns control
> panel...it's cool! if anyone wants it, just lemme know...
>
> Peter Caira
> caira@server.uwindsor.ca
> http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira
>
> Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again
>
>
I'd LOVE a theTHE screen saver and wallpaper file...could you mail or
download a copy to me (if you're going to download it, let me know ahead
of time so I can find someone who knows how to transfer it to a usable
file for me) If there's anything I could mail you in exchange, let me know.
Joel
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From: Doug Chase (Volt Computer)
To: Fieros@cabana.ncsa.uiuc.edu, infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Address change
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 95 16:10:47 PST
Message-Id: <9510300124.AA13313@netmail2.microsoft.com>
Hello Everybody,
As of 10/30, my email address will change to DougCha@microsoft.com.
I'm taking care of the mailing list seperately, but some of you that
have emailed me personally might want to update you address books. Thanks.
Doug Chase
PS. I hope this wasn't too far off topic, Pete. Sorry. :-)
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From: Peter Caira
To: Doug Chase
cc: Fieros@cabana.ncsa.uiuc.edu, infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Address change
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 19:49:30 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID:
On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, Doug Chase wrote:
> PS. I hope this wasn't too far off topic, Pete. Sorry. :-)
Wha? yer not talking about me, are ya?
Peter Caira
caira@server.uwindsor.ca
http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira
Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again
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From: Marcus-aka Mark
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: rendezvous
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:43:49 GMT0BST
Message-ID: <1B049777DDA@fs1.art.man.ac.uk>
This one is for David Cooper at NASA:
Hey! You seem like one of the cool people that live in Houston.
It appears that I am headed home for Christmas (I live outside
Houston in the 'burbs), so what do you think about the rendezvous
idea someone threw out a week back or so? Besides being a the The
fan, I noticed your quote from Matthew Sweet's "Pulling the Trigger".
I think that's right. Of course, I am assuming that you actually
staying in Houston for the holidays. Let me know. It's no big deal. I
just thought it would be cool to meet someone that like the The as
much as I do.
Next piece of business:
I'm sorry that I don't remember you name, but I agree with you
about the 2nd song on BBS. It's roughness is cool, and I love how it
slides in from the 1st song. There's just something that I can't put
a finger on about it that makes that song cool.
See you all MJ fans later!
Mark
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mfzx5mam@stud.man.ac.uk
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From: James Bykowy
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: the The fans common interests
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 23:20:06 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID:
Following that one posting asking us all to reveal our true identities, I
noticed that a large number of members of this group are computer types
of one sort or another. Yep, I'm one. So, can anybody postulate a
unifying theory? What gives? My fiancee loves the The like I do (good
thing) but only after I had introduced her to the music, and she's the
most anti-technological person on earth. No matter what anybody says.
What does MJ think of computers / technology? Apart from an on-line
interview I'm only now hearing about, does he get into the whole computer
geek thing? Apparently Billy Idol is big on the whole Cyberpunk thing,
but that's another story.
Let me know your thoughts,
James
"Thirty days has September, October, June, and February...
All the rest have thirty-one, except my brother,
Who got six months."
- Peter Sellers as "Hrundi V. Bakshi", The Party
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From: Craig Sefton
To: ab956@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (James Bykowy)
Cc: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: the The fans common interests
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:14:11 +0200 (SAT)
Message-Id: <199510310614.IAA29177@beastie.cs.und.ac.za>
James wrote:
> What does MJ think of computers / technology? Apart from an on-line
> interview I'm only now hearing about, does he get into the whole computer
> geek thing? Apparently Billy Idol is big on the whole Cyberpunk thing,
> but that's another story.
Well, when I first wrote to THETHEXXX@aol.com I asked them if there was a
chance of MJ replying. They said something along the ines of "he does get on
every now and again to read fan mail and sometimes jump around the
Internet". Also, if I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure I read an article
somewhere (don't ask me where because I can't remember) where he said he
considers computers and the Internet to be pretty amazing. Of course I could
be totally wrong about this and the interview was with someone else, but
hey, shit happens ;)
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From: dougcha
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: the The fans common interests
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 13:51:04 PST
Message-Id: <9511010118.AA14904@netmail2.microsoft.com>
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>From: James Bykowy
>To:
>Subject: the The fans common interests
>Date: Monday, October 30, 1995 11:20PM
>
>
>Following that one posting asking us all to reveal our true identities, I
>noticed that a large number of members of this group are computer types
>of one sort or another. Yep, I'm one. So, can anybody postulate a
>unifying theory? What gives?
I think it's probably a coincidence. I think the fact that most of us
are computer literate and/or computer interested is the reason we're on
an internet mailing list, not the reason we like The The. It seems
that most of the people on the internet (that I've noticed) are still
either students, or people with internet access at work. And most
companies hooked into the net are technically oriented.
Just my opinions, and loaded with broad generalizations... Take it as
you wish...
- -Doug
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From: "Benjamin "Quincy" Cabell V"
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Happy Birthday Johnny Marr!!! He is 32.
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 07:46:16 +0000
Message-Id: <199510311245.HAA09032@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
Hello -
Subject says it all. I just thought I'd pass this info along for anyone who
is into birthdays or whatever...
- - Quincy
.........................................................................
Worcester : Benjamin "Quincy" Cabell V : Mechanical
Polytechnic : thethe@wpi.edu : Engineering
Institute : Design & Computer Science Interests : Major
................:........................................:...............
My NEW and Improved PAGE!
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From: dougcha
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: RE: Happy Birthday Johnny Marr!!! He is 32.
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 13:42:55 PST
Message-Id: <9511010105.AA13757@netmail2.microsoft.com>
On that note, we missed Hank's b-day exactly 2 weeks ago (10/17). He
would have been 72 this year.
- -Doug
- ----------
>From: "Benjamin "Quincy" Cabell V"
>To:
>Subject: Happy Birthday Johnny Marr!!! He is 32.
>Date: Tuesday, October 31, 1995 7:46AM
>
>Hello -
>
>Subject says it all. I just thought I'd pass this info along for anyone who
>is into birthdays or whatever...
>
>- Quincy
>
>..........................................................................
>Worcester : Benjamin "Quincy" Cabell V : Mechanical
>Polytechnic : thethe@wpi.edu : Engineering
>Institute : Design & Computer Science Interests : Major
>.................:........................................:...............
> My NEW and Improved PAGE!
>..........................................................................
>
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From: 29DELCHER@CUA.EDU
To: shill@harper.cc.il.us, infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Discography additions
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 23:45:52 -0400 (EDT)
Message-id: <01HX3WULS62A8WW23G@cu4700.cua.edu>
Hello steve and everyone. Here are some additions to the discography
which I have either seen or know exist:
1. The The vs. Hank - Promo CD with all of Hanky Panky as well as
the original Hank Williams songs. (22 tracks)
2. Jealous of Youth 7" vers. (CD Promo) with
Beyond Love/ Jealous of Youth 12" vers
3. Dogs of Lust Promo CD with the three different mixes
(Orange and green cover)
4. Promo wooden box set with full Hanky Panky and
I saw the light CD single ( 2 discs)
5. Heartland/ Slow Train to Dawn 7" - Tower records Promo single
6. Slow Emotion Replay CD single with live cuts:
Sodium Light, Infected, Love is stronger, sweet bird,
slow emotion (recorded at Sony music studios May 6,1993)
7. Save Me - Unofficial bootleg
8. Live in New York official bootleg (tape and CD)
some copies of dusk had this attached
9. A little Hanky Panky (CD and Tape 4 track promo)
10. From dusk to dawn ( Tape promo with four tracks from Dusk)
11. Album network Rock Tune-up compilations:
#95 3/8/93 - Dogs of Lust
#97 11/19/93 - Love is stronger
12. CMJ - Certain Damage compilation Vol. 23 disc 2
Beyond Love "live" (taken from interchords)
13. Interchords also comes on vinyl with promo gold stamp
14. EPIC tour de force compilation with 2 live cuts:
Love is stronger and Slow emotion replay
15. B-Side magazine Oct/Nov 89 - The The is cover story
If you have any questions about any of these items then please e-mail me. I am
eager to talk with you about keeping the discography updated.
thanks,
dave d. 29delcher@cua.edu
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From: Steven W Hill
To: infected@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Discography additions
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 23:36:06 CST
Message-Id: <9511010536.AA17296@harper.cc.il.us>
Good timing on those discography additions.
Everyone, I'm working on a major update to version 2.0 of the discography
in both text and HTML versions. Hopefully it will be done within a couple
of days. Keep watching here!
- -shill
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